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Yup. That kind of hurts.

I do think we gave up on Thomas too soon.
 
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He was constantly hurt, dropped numerous easy balls, committed a number of idiotic penalties and quite frankly,played his way off the team. Hindsight is great...like the Giants giving up on Shockey..which BTW was a far more important acquisition for the Saints than Dave Thomas...kill THAT too.
 
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He was constantly hurt, dropped numerous easy balls, committed a number of idiotic penalties and quite frankly,played his way off the team. Hindsight is great...like the Giants giving up on Shockey..which BTW was a far more important acquisition for the Saints than Dave Thomas...kill THAT too.

Agreed. Plus Watson and Baker were barely used, so why would Thomas have been so important to this team?

We got a draft pick for a guy who was going to be cut. I'd say that's a win for us.
 
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gotta love the homers who poo-poo whoever leaves the team

thomas, like so many other draft picks for the pats, never get a real chance since there are simply too many reasons to wind up in BB's doghouse
 
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I rather have the 7th round pick.
 
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Well, from what I recall he was developing into a decent...I dunno the best comparison...Kevin Turner? type fullback. Good receiving skills, some blocking skills.

With Heath Evans gone, he could've filled that role ably, plus be a decent option at tight end.
 
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If we had kept Thomas he would have been like the rest of the te's and would have been left unused
 
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If we had kept Thomas he would have been like the rest of the te's and would have been left unused

So it's the scheme?
 
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thomas, like so many other draft picks for the pats, never get a real chance since there are simply too many reasons to wind up in BB's doghouse
What do you mean he never got a real chance?? Gotta love the riff raff who talk out of their backsides..
 
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What do you mean he never got a real chance?? Gotta love the riff raff who talk out of their backsides..

talking about yourself? every time he screwed up, he'd disappear for bunch of games.

I thought he played well enough to earn more time and am glad he is doing well somewhere else

my backside produces the equivalent of what comes out of your head
 
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talking about yourself? every time he screwed up, he'd disappear for bunch of games.

I thought he played well enough to earn more time and am glad he is doing well somewhere else

my backside produces the equivalent of what comes out of your head
I was talking about garbage that has polluted this board like manure... YUKKKKKK!!
As for the ctying crowd who is wimpering.."oh he didn't get enough time...They didn't give him a chance"... All I can say is that it isn't just playing time in a game that these players are seen...They have many many practices and are looked at in a larger context..What a fan sees is ONLY a sliver..more a glimpse of the time on the stage.. But then again, what do coaches know who see him everyday and did for a few years.. He obviously was going to be cut, so getting a 7th round pick is certainly a plus. I am glad he is doing good..I always thought he would be a good receiver, but he only had a few catches, one big one and obviously too many dumb mistakes.
 
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Gaffney is the player NE should have kept - 54 rec for 732 yards - not Thomas.
 
What is clear is that they were unable to get production from another pretty high draft pick. Their mediocre talent input is a big part of hte reason they are watching tv at home.
 
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Gaffney had 38 catches for the patriots last year. Edelman had 37 this year.

Gaffney is the player NE should have kept - 54 rec for 732 yards - not Thomas.
 
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Gaffney had 38 catches for the patriots last year. Edelman had 37 this year.

Different positions on the field.

Different routes.

Different likelihoods of being the hot receiver.


There's almost no comparison.
 
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It is a bit bizzare that he could
a. have a roster spot and start 8 games on another NFL team immediately following (after not some long term rehab) basically being waived by Pats
b. that team is a #1 seed with much more talents on his side of the ball
c. that team is loaded with talent receivers, and has another probowl TE already (Shocky)

yet the team that released him:
a. has a depleted offense roster with very few offense weapons
b. has to use special teamer Aiken and practice squader Stanback as the 3rd and 4th receiver
c. has got very little production from its TE position (after trading for another TE Mathews and then waived him as well)


Seems pretty clear cut ... yet some people just refuse to tell the difference between black and white.
 
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It may seem bizarre to you, but Watson is a much better all around TE than Thomas and Baker is a much better blocking TE and redzone threat than Thomas. Thomas would have been inactive in almost every game if he were on the patriot roster.

It is a bit bizzare that he could
a. have a roster spot and start 8 games on another NFL team immediately following (after not some long term rehab) basically being waived by Pats
b. that team is a #1 seed with much more talents on his side of the ball
c. that team is loaded with talent receivers, and has another probowl TE already (Shocky)

yet the team that released him:
a. has a depleted offense roster with very few offense weapons
b. has to use special teamer Aiken and practice squader Stanback as the 3rd and 4th receiver
c. has got very little production from its TE position (after trading for another TE Mathews and then waived him as well)


Seems pretty clear cut ... yet some people just refuse to tell the difference between black and white.
 
Re: Reiss:Revisiting the David Thomas trade

It is a bit bizzare that he could
a. have a roster spot and start 8 games on another NFL team immediately following (after not some long term rehab) basically being waived by Pats
b. that team is a #1 seed with much more talents on his side of the ball
c. that team is loaded with talent receivers, and has another probowl TE already (Shocky)

yet the team that released him:
a. has a depleted offense roster with very few offense weapons
b. has to use special teamer Aiken and practice squader Stanback as the 3rd and 4th receiver
c. has got very little production from its TE position (after trading for another TE Mathews and then waived him as well)


Seems pretty clear cut ... yet some people just refuse to tell the difference between black and white.
Don't tell that to the homers on this message board since they still have their heads buried in the sand. Aside from Gostkowski, the 2006 NFL Draft for the Patriots has turned out to be a disaster.
 
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It may seem bizarre to you, but Watson is a much better all around TE than Thomas and Baker is a much better blocking TE and redzone threat than Thomas. Thomas would have been inactive in almost every game if he were on the patriot roster.
We will see whether the Patriots re-sign tight end Ben Watson during this off-season.
 
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