Why BB's reputation just went UP among fellow NFL coaches

[PonyExpress]

Attacked by a barrage of misleading and reckless media reports, BB could have easily defended himself, and protected his public rep, by revealing that EVERYBODY IN THE LEAGUE TAPES SIGNALS. Instead, he said nothing, allowed himself to be publicly humiliated, taking the flak for the whole league as a willing fall guy. He never even made a counteraccusation against the Jets, an obvious, easy argument to make given the mounting evidence gathered on this board. His silence spoke volumes to the coaching fraternity, distinguishing him starkly from Mangini. BB's silence was a more profound indication of his character than any statement he could have made, and people in the know- well, they know it.

 

[Slagathor]

Attacked by a barrage of misleading and reckless media reports, BB could have easily defended himself, and protected his public rep, by revealing that EVERYBODY IN THE LEAGUE TAPES SIGNALS. Instead, he said nothing, allowed himself to be publicly humiliated, taking the flak for the whole league as a willing fall guy. He never even made a counteraccusation against the Jets, an obvious, easy argument to make given the mounting evidence gathered on this board. His silence spoke volumes to the coaching fraternity, distinguishing him starkly from Mangini. BB's silence was a more profound indication of his character than any statement he could have made, and people in the know- well, they know it.

Good Point!

 

[SmokeShowin]

Ditto, good point.

 

[emoney_33]

Damn straight, and I expect nothing else from good ol' BB. He loves the game too much, he still is the biggest student of the game and the hardest working non-player in the game. He will never do anything to intentionally hurt the game. If he has to report something to the league he will do so with discretion. He must be extremely disappointed with Mangini.


But hey it's us against the world for real again!

 

[Patriot_in_NY]

Good Point!

It is............... But you heard the man. He's busy preparing for San Diego :rocker:

 

[Ghost of Ben Dreith]

Attacked by a barrage of misleading and reckless media reports, BB could have easily defended himself, and protected his public rep, by revealing that EVERYBODY IN THE LEAGUE TAPES SIGNALS. Instead, he said nothing, allowed himself to be publicly humiliated, taking the flak for the whole league as a willing fall guy. He never even made a counteraccusation against the Jets, an obvious, easy argument to make given the mounting evidence gathered on this board. His silence spoke volumes to the coaching fraternity, distinguishing him starkly from Mangini. BB's silence was a more profound indication of his character than any statement he could have made, and people in the know- well, they know it.

This might be true for some coaches, but not for all of them as evidenced by the whining and moaning from that arseclown Fisher and by Dungy. I think those that already respected him, would expect him to do just as he did in accepting blame and not throwing any other coaches under the bus. Those that disliked him/were jealous of him couldn't care less what he did or didn't do in accepting blame, they just want to pile on and possibly make those losses inflicted by him easier to deal with in their own minds.

I do think Mangina comes off the worse in the comparison.

 

[BrianPat]

Attacked by a barrage of misleading and reckless media reports, BB could have easily defended himself, and protected his public rep, by revealing that EVERYBODY IN THE LEAGUE TAPES SIGNALS. Instead, he said nothing, allowed himself to be publicly humiliated, taking the flak for the whole league as a willing fall guy. He never even made a counteraccusation against the Jets, an obvious, easy argument to make given the mounting evidence gathered on this board. His silence spoke volumes to the coaching fraternity, distinguishing him starkly from Mangini. BB's silence was a more profound indication of his character than any statement he could have made, and people in the know- well, they know it.

You can't say what you can't prove. Accusing every team of video taping calls, you better have lots of proof or you look very very bad !

 

[LoveDemPats]

Yea, and he also taught some of the newbies how to act in public. There were a lot of transgressions after this fiasco. There will be fallout. Many of the old guard knew how BB would react, and he will continue to be respected. But what do you think about Dungy's status now? Or, Fisher, and Tomlin? There were an awful lot of people that were not too respectful. Do you think that they will learn that maybe they just should have kept quiet? What if they simply continue to throw stones? I have seen people do this as a way to keep the pressure off themselves. No matter what the evidence is, they go on the attack. Learning that the coaches should have just said "no comment" may actually cause some of these people to open thier mouths even wider believe it or not.

 

[IcyPatriot]

Great post PonyExpress and I agree. Mangini let the media into the inner sanctum of coaching. A place the media would love to be ... how hard they try every press conference to get there. Such a fool is Mangini ... perhaps he can coach wearing a helmet?

 

[Slagathor]

This might be true for some coaches, but not for all of them as evidenced by the whining and moaning from that arseclown Fisher and by Dungy. I think those that already respected him, would expect him to do just as he did in accepting blame and not throwing any other coaches under the bus. Those that disliked him/were jealous of him couldn't care less what he did or didn't do in accepting blame, they just want to pile on and possibly make those losses inflicted by him easier to deal with in their own minds.

I do think Mangina comes off the worse in the comparison.

It all comes down to that handshake at midfield and the idea of brotherhood amongst coaches. That moment truly was a Judas selling out Jesus moment (by analogy only).

Belichick did not hide the camera. He never has.

History will not be kind to Mangini, especially amongst his peers.

 

[1976pats]

I also agree PE. Increased respect for BB from other coaches? Yes, albeit begrudgingly. The hatred from many would be unchanged however. Now Mangini is a different story. His "respect", if he had any as a 2nd year coach, is gone, evaporated. Forever. He better have a Chuck Knoll length run in NYC because if/when he gets sacked he never, ever gets another coordinator job. Its back to Wesleyan for Tubby.

 

[patsox23]

What would be nice NOW is for stories - and video proof - to come out about the other teams taping illicitly from the sidelines from sources other than Belichick. From the media, fan-sites, whatever - so that guys like Mangini and whoever else get tagged with the same infraction (and one would hope, the same penalty), but without Belichick having broken the code of silence.

In my view, and I think I'm in the minority here, this will, unfortunately, NEVER happen. I think it'll just go forward and BB will be the only one implicated. And then we'll win anyway.

 

[patsox23]

BTW, what's to stop some guy from, say, the Titans, becoming a free agent, not being a fan of Fisher's, and just saying, "Oh please, we stole signals all the time in Tennessee, here's how WE did it." Peter King says the Colts do it all the time - when do we hear from someone on Polian or the holier than thou, Mr. Kumba-effing-Ya himself, Tony Dungy?

 

[Bella*chick]

This is one of the reasons I knew BB and Kraft would never, ever say "Others were doing it too!" It's not a very good defense and it's not going to win you any points trying to drag everyone else down to save your own skin.

Right now, we're the public whipping boys. Perhaps we will be for some time in the future. But as times goes on, and people look back at this with some perspective (TOTALLY lacking now), we'll see how it treats the Mangina.

 

[Patriot_in_NY]

What would be nice NOW is for stories - and video proof - to come out about the other teams taping illicitly from the sidelines from sources other than Belichick. From the media, fan-sites, whatever - so that guys like Mangini and whoever else get tagged with the same infraction (and one would hope, the same penalty), but without Belichick having broken the code of silence.

In my view, and I think I'm in the minority here, is that this will, unfortunately, NEVER happen. I think it'll just go forward and BB will be the only one implicated. And then we'll win anyway.

I'd be surprised if there will be though. While the NFL will be looking into it, they need help from the coaches and teams in order to provide documentation (as Magina supplied).

As the original context of this thread implies, and some posts have referenced most coaches want to close the door to the inter sanctim of NFL Coaching as quickly as Mangini opened it.

Unless something real blantant occurs, it'll be mums the word on any coaching trangression for the next few weeks.

 

[NJSportsFanatic]

Are you serious?

Belichick is not even well=respected by the coaching fraternity.

I don't even recall one coach thinking highly of him.

Basically, all coaches have taken shots at Belichick all week.

 

[patsox23]

Are you serious?

Belichick is not even well=respected by the coaching fraternity.

I don't even recall one coach thinking highly of him.

Basically, all coaches have taken shots at Belichick all week.

Except Shanny, Parcells, Madden, Martz and others. Great call!

Listen, I agree that many coaches don't LIKE Belichick, but there are very few who don't respect him as a coach. You're delusional if you think that. Do you?

 

[PatsFanSince74]

i'd like to think you're right, but this is wishful thinking...i suspect these guys are all too wrapped up in their own worlds...and, i didn't see any of them jumping to his defense...

 

[true_patriot]

Laughable. :blahblah:

...actually, bordering on asinine.

Great contribution to this post. But then again what else I can expect from a 'bolt'!

 

[PatriotsReign]

Attacked by a barrage of misleading and reckless media reports, BB could have easily defended himself, and protected his public rep, by revealing that EVERYBODY IN THE LEAGUE TAPES SIGNALS. Instead, he said nothing, allowed himself to be publicly humiliated, taking the flak for the whole league as a willing fall guy. He never even made a counteraccusation against the Jets, an obvious, easy argument to make given the mounting evidence gathered on this board. His silence spoke volumes to the coaching fraternity, distinguishing him starkly from Mangini. BB's silence was a more profound indication of his character than any statement he could have made, and people in the know- well, they know it.

Standing ovation for your insights! Stand up and take a bow! Although some might not believe it, the FACT is, you speak the truth.