Patriots Select CB McCourty

RhodyPatriot said:

It's real simple Ian. This 1st round pick does NOT address ANY of the Patriots glaring needs. NONE OF THEM. ZERO!! NADA!!! ZILCH!!!
Hell I'd have been happier if they had chosen Dez Bryant and I wanted the Pats to draft defense. At least Bryant would be an impact player.
This is a really bad pick for the 1st round when you look at the players they left on the board. A bad pick!

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Agreed ! Moss is 33 and in his last year of his contract. Holt is 34, Welker will miss the first 6 games. Bryant is a STUD who made a mistake in judgement and is paying for it. He will be a star for Dallas, and mccourty will be a gunner on our special teams. Big deal, terrible pick.

You guys really upset me everyone *****ed about our defensive backs last year, now you roll out bodden butler mccourty that's a very athletic, talented trio, maybe Crable is further along then we think. Maybe were trading for osi or another vet, maybe we like griffen or kindle or dunlap. or Maybe BB knows that defenses have to stop spread formations. This kid is going to be special. Defense wins championships not spoiled selfish receivers like bryant.
Doesn;t anyone find it funny that the two trades we made had players we were linked to taken in those spots? Bill is a genius and those that question the Patriots shouldn't be on this board. GGGGGGGGoodnight.

muzz said:

Solid?
You mean like the last 2 clowns that BillBob has drafted?

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You are, quite obviously, a buffoon.

Buffoon; n.; 1: One who makes judgments with insufficient criteria, e.g., the fact that there are 7 rounds in an NFL draft, and many "first-round-grade" players still "on the board."

2: A Jets, Colts, Steelers, Dolphins, or Ravens fan.

3: muzz.

Christopher Patriot said:

You guys really upset me everyone *****ed about our defensive backs last year, now you roll out bodden butler mccourty that's a very athletic, talented trio

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This thread is a total embarrassment. We should now have a trio of CB, Wilhite will be the 4th. We have 4 picks tomorrow, PLENTY of time and picks to fill some other needs.

bigfandan said:

This young man at best is a nickle back this year, given that we already have Butler and Bodden. A WR (Bryant), OLB, or DE would bring more bang for the buck.

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Tate, Gilyard, Williams from USC, Benn, Shipley, Cooper, Decker, Lafell

Dunlap, Kindle, Griffen, Cody, Joseph all still available... tons of value..

RhodyPatriot said:

It's real simple Ian. This 1st round pick does NOT address ANY of the Patriots glaring needs. NONE OF THEM. ZERO!! NADA!!! ZILCH!!!
Hell I'd have been happier if they had chosen Dez Bryant and I wanted the Pats to draft defense. At least Bryant would be an impact player.
This is a really bad pick for the 1st round when you look at the players they left on the board. A bad pick!

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Really? The Patriots secondary was absolutely burnt last year (Wilhite), I assume this pick had definitely addressed a need. He could be come the next impressive player (Butler) or the next unimpressive player (Wheately). I'm not sure why we'd draft Bryant with Moss, Welker (coming back midseason), Holt, and the recent appearance of Julian Edelman. We're all set at wide receiver for 2010, we can address our needs next year when Randy Moss is no-longer on the team.

I don't see why people are complaining about this pick, he seemed like a better option than Kyle Wilson. He wasn't what I wanted at first, but I'm starting to like him a lot more after doing research. According to Todd McShay, he has the potential to become a #1 corner. He should also make an immediate impact on special teams.

Now just to address our other needs on pass rush and a tight end (who can catch, block, and glock).

Warren94 said:

Tate, Gilyard, Williams from USC, Benn, Shipley, Cooper, Decker, Lafell

Dunlap, Kindle, Griffen, Cody, Joseph all still available... tons of value..

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And what happens when dunlap, kindle, griffen, etc all get picked before we get to pick in the second round. We still have a putrid pass rush. Just pitiful. Draft the good players first, then, take chances. Not the other way around.

jbhiggy said:

I don't think I'm alone wondering how we can pass on Dez Bryant or pick a "gunner" in the first round instead of filling an actual need like OLB. This offseason has been as frustrating as I've seen in a long time.

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Honestly - I'm not too thrilled with Bryant - I would have preferred Jerry and Wade to pick an OL, preferably a G b/c we don't have much depth there, and Leonard Davis/Kyle Kosier are getting up there in age.

And I think, even despite Roy11 being a disappointment, we're FINE at WR(Austin and Williams' backups played very well last year, and Witten is the biggest key to our passing game).

BTW - as I understand it, we merely traded my 3rd pick for your 4th pick? Again, I'm disappointed, b/c Jerry could have picked up another gem in the 3rd round, possibly a safety or an OL.

Now the Eagles - they've done themselves very good thus far - trading MERELY 2 3rd rounders to move up to get a very good pass rusher, while keeping both of their 2 2nd rounders. They can easily pick up a G/S in the next round.

scott99 said:

Agreed, just pitiful. Bryant, Kindle and Hughes were there for the Pats, and we pick the 5th-9th best CB, lol hilarious! ... Sorry, Bill has no clue how this draft thing works anymore.

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The Pats front office and scouts think that McCourty is a better football player than Kindle and Hughes, but I guess you put more stock in some mock draft nerd. He was their highest rated player, and he sounds pretty damn talented - that's why they picked him and that's pretty much the way they always operate.

BB's as committed to fixing the corner situation as he is OLB or whatever. He's also spent some picks addressing safety. He wants a much better and deeper defensive backfield. If Wheatley and Wilhite are our 4th and 5th corners, that's a good thing. And how much you want to bet that with our next pick we get a pash rusher or WR of equal value to anyone we could have gotten at #24?

And if Bryant were so great, why did 23 other teams pass on him? He's a problem, that's why. Let him join the circus in Dallas.

Not really liking this pick, while Wilhite gets crapped on alot here I thought as a 3rd/4th CB he is fine. And we have Springs too who played well... DB is one of the positions I did not want to see us spend a high pick on let alone the highest. Especially when last year you traded Ellis Hobbs for a couple 5ths figuring you have enough CBs

The bottom line is that he can ball. McCourtey is likely the best adaptive player in the draft, and was second in the combine in the 3-cone at his position. I wanted an outside backer as bad as anyone, but rarely does sexy trump sage. The best 34 OLB's are also still on the board. Misi, Lane, Sapp, ect...

Then again, if anyone out there still thinks that McCourtey is a scrub, I would be more than happy to issue a quite public class on evaluating football.

jays52 said:

The bottom line is that he can ball. McCourtey is likely the best adaptive player in the draft, and was second in the combine in the 3-cone at his position. I wanted an outside backer as bad as anyone, but rarely does sexy trump sage. The best 34 OLB's are also still on the board. Misi, Lane, Sapp, ect...

Then again, if anyone out there still thinks that McCourtey is a scrub, I would be more than happy to issue a quite public class on evaluating football.

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just where he was picked is the f@ckup. Like I said, if you go CB, you pick the best one available. They didn't. The best one available was the guy the Jets picked followed by the one picked after that, both CB's were a consensus, across the board higher rated CB's than mccourty. You show me any person who had mccourty rated the 3rd best CB in the draft. I dare anyone to find a rating where mccourty was rated 3rd best. Besides bellichick's rating and maybe mccourtys moms ratings, it doesn't exist anywhere. And another poster brings up mock nerds, well guess what, these mock nerds have been better at picking talent than bellichick the last few years.

scott99 said:

just where he was picked is the f@ckup. Like I said, if you go CB, you pick the best one available. They didn't. The best one available was the guy the Jets picked followed by the one picked after that, both CB's were a consensus, across the board higher rated CB's than mccourty. You show me any person who had mccourty rated the 3rd best CB in the draft. I dare anyone to find a rating where mccourty was rated 3rd best. Besides bellichick's rating and maybe mccourtys moms ratings, it doesn't exist anywhere. And another poster brings up mock nerds, well guess what, these mock nerds have been better at picking talent than bellichick the last few years.

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You do realize that simply because you think Wilson is better than McCourty doesn't make it so, don't you?

TapDancing39 said:

Really? The Patriots secondary was absolutely burnt last year (Wilhite), I assume this pick had definitely addressed a need. He could be come the next impressive player (Butler) or the next unimpressive player (Wheately). I'm not sure why we'd draft Bryant with Moss, Welker (coming back midseason), Holt, and the recent appearance of Julian Edelman. We're all set at wide receiver for 2010, we can address our needs next year when Randy Moss is no-longer on the team.

I don't see why people are complaining about this pick, he seemed like a better option than Kyle Wilson. He wasn't what I wanted at first, but I'm starting to like him a lot more after doing research. According to Todd McShay, he has the potential to become a #1 corner. He should also make an immediate impact on special teams.

Now just to address our other needs on pass rush and a tight end (who can catch, block, and glock).

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The Patriot secondary was burnt last year because they got ZERO help from the front with a pass rush. No defensive backfield is going to thrive when they need to hold coverage for 10 seconds on every play because there's simply no pressure on the QB. You say McCourty was a better option than Kyle Wilson. I say both Odrick and Hughes were better options than McCourty as was Dez Bryant. Both Odrick and Hughes were still on the board at 27 and there's a real chance McCourty would have been available in the 2nd round for the Patriots at 44.