OT - Reggie Bush could be in trouble.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/NO/9662320

I don't see why that is a violation... oh well. Someone is gunna get in trouble for that one, be it Bush, or that marketing agent, or whatever.


I hope this doesnt get moved so uh...

I sure am glad no rookie PATRIOTS players did that.

Wow, this story keeps coming back. And now the 'Texans so screwed the pooch' crowd will again shift their stance to 'The Texans obviously made the right choice with Mario Williams."

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Will it affect Bush playing in this NFL season? He came out as a Junior, so them decrediting his Junior year would mean he has only two college seasons under his belt, IE Not enough to be in the NFL?

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fleabassist1 said:

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/NO/9662320

I don't see why that is a violation... oh well. Someone is gunna get in trouble for that one, be it Bush, or that marketing agent, or whatever.


I hope this doesnt get moved so uh...

I sure am glad no rookie PATRIOTS players did that.

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Let me provide some perspective so there's context to this and what it means to Bush, the NCAA, the NFL, other players, and sports in general.

First let me just say that I think the way the NCAA uses players to pad their own pockets is borderline criminal itself, but that being said...

On the surface, you'd say that there's not much the NCAA can do to slap Bush on the wrist at this point. He's out of college now and has his $50 million endoresement deal.

Perhaps some action is taken against the agent, or the school if they were aware - but since he's outta college, what' the NCAA gonna do?

I'm glad you asked. Probably not much.

But as we've seen with steroids in baseball, the federal government sometimes takes an interest in seeing that the integrity of sports is maintained.

In this case, the IRS might have a teenie weenie little problem with the Bush family taking $100,000 under the table without reporting it - as they likely did so as to circumvent being caught by the NCAA.

So, do you think the IRS will just look the other way on this well publicized case letting the word be known that white collar crime like tax evasion isn't all that serious and doesn't have harsh penalties?

Ask "Survivor" champ Richard Hatch, who's serving 4 years in a federal penetentiary, what he thinks about that (although in his case, some might question whether he's enjoying himself!).

I would be surprised if the US Attorney's office didn't attempt to make Bush an example for others.

So between Reggie Bush and the Cinicinatti Bengals (who I predict will go 12-4 this season - 12 indicted and 4 convicted) you've got the cast for "The Longest Yard III" right there.

Brownfan80 said:

Will it affect Bush playing in this NFL season? He came out as a Junior, so them decrediting his Junior year would mean he has only two college seasons under his belt, IE Not enough to be in the NFL?

:shrug:

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I'm also kind of tired of this story. What will they do? Penalize USC? Take Bush's Heisman away? Whatever. Who cares?

Will it affect Bush's NFL career? Not at all. It doesn't matter how many college seasons he played. You simply have to be three years removed from high school to be eligible for the NFL, even if you never played in college.

It actually sets the example that you can and will get away with it so as a college athlete - take the $. Be discrete and cover your tracks but definitely take whatever you can get.

Nothing ever happened to Chris Webber either.

JoeSixPat said:

In this case, the IRS might have a teenie weenie little problem with the Bush family taking $100,000 under the table without reporting it - as they likely did so as to circumvent being caught by the NCAA.

So, do you think the IRS will just look the other way on this well publicized case letting the word be known that white collar crime like tax evasion isn't all that serious and doesn't have harsh penalties?

Ask "Survivor" champ Richard Hatch, who's serving 4 years in a federal penetentiary, what he thinks about that (although in his case, some might question whether he's enjoying himself!).

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I think this is highly unlikely, Bush's handlers have forseen this possibilty and with appropriate speading of the wealth via high profile donations have so endeared Bush to the New Orleans populance that any fed action would amount to a sacrilage.

The Fed's have a big enough black eye in the Katrina aftermath already.

To go after Bush would solve nothing and simply add to the Fed's problems in New Orleans.

Those at the top of the NFL and the top of the goverment food chain will either ignore or settle any violations quietly and away from the cameras.

In essence Bush has become an untouchable due to being one of the only spots of light in an other wise devastated area.

So Brush will get away with it.

JoeSixPat said:

First let me just say that I think the way the NCAA uses players to pad their own pockets is borderline criminal itself, but that being said...

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I used to think the same way as you. Then it occured to me. Alot of these players get to come to these colleges for free in exhange for playing football. Alot of these players wouldn't have been accepted into these schools as students even if they paid.

TNPatsFan said:

I'm also kind of tired of this story. What will they do? Penalize USC? Take Bush's Heisman away? Whatever. Who cares?

Will it affect Bush's NFL career? Not at all. It doesn't matter how many college seasons he played. You simply have to be three years removed from high school to be eligible for the NFL, even if you never played in college.

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It's weird, I'm almost as sick of hearing about Reggie Bush as I am the Manning twins. Almost.

At least he's not in quite as many TV ads as those two.

Reggie Bush is in no trouble at all. Fact is he is laughing all

the way to the bank. USC will be in trouble if the NCAA imposes

sanctions and takes away some of their football scholarships.

fleabassist1 said:

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/NO/9662320

I don't see why that is a violation... oh well. Someone is gunna get in trouble for that one, be it Bush, or that marketing agent, or whatever.


I hope this doesnt get moved so uh...

I sure am glad no rookie PATRIOTS players did that.

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The problem with the system is the player (and his representatives) don't get into much trouble. At worst, I could see Bush might have to pay back the money which to him, now that he is in the NFL, is chump change.

The University would get hit hardest. Things like forfeiting championships, paying back bowl revenue, scholarship sanctions and the sort...

RAWKY said:

I think this is highly unlikely, Bush's handlers have forseen this possibilty and with appropriate speading of the wealth via high profile donations have so endeared Bush to the New Orleans populance that any fed action would amount to a sacrilage.

The Fed's have a big enough black eye in the Katrina aftermath already.

To go after Bush would solve nothing and simply add to the Fed's problems in New Orleans.

Those at the top of the NFL and the top of the goverment food chain will either ignore or settle any violations quietly and away from the cameras.

In essence Bush has become an untouchable due to being one of the only spots of light in an other wise devastated area.

So Brush will get away with it.

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I'm not sure the IRS is too concerned about how FEMA is perceived!

If this were just another Joe Six Pack involved in tax evasion I'd say they'd just come in and collect a hefty fine in addition to back taxes - the IRS LOVES fines!

But in this case Bush's fame and his ability to thumb his nose at the NCAA by accepting cash while playing in college strikes me as something working AGAINST him - not for him.

I think the US Attorney is going to have no choice but to indict him for tax evasion - I can't imagine why they wouldn't - especially if he's perceived as "laughing all the way to the bank".

JoeSixPat said:

Let me provide some perspective so there's context to this and what it means to Bush, the NCAA, the NFL, other players, and sports in general.

First let me just say that I think the way the NCAA uses players to pad their own pockets is borderline criminal itself, but that being said...

On the surface, you'd say that there's not much the NCAA can do to slap Bush on the wrist at this point. He's out of college now and has his $50 million endoresement deal.

Perhaps some action is taken against the agent, or the school if they were aware - but since he's outta college, what' the NCAA gonna do?

I'm glad you asked. Probably not much.

But as we've seen with steroids in baseball, the federal government sometimes takes an interest in seeing that the integrity of sports is maintained.

In this case, the IRS might have a teenie weenie little problem with the Bush family taking $100,000 under the table without reporting it - as they likely did so as to circumvent being caught by the NCAA.

So, do you think the IRS will just look the other way on this well publicized case letting the word be known that white collar crime like tax evasion isn't all that serious and doesn't have harsh penalties?

Ask "Survivor" champ Richard Hatch, who's serving 4 years in a federal penetentiary, what he thinks about that (although in his case, some might question whether he's enjoying himself!).

I would be surprised if the US Attorney's office didn't attempt to make Bush an example for others.

So between Reggie Bush and the Cinicinatti Bengals (who I predict will go 12-4 this season - 12 indicted and 4 convicted) you've got the cast for "The Longest Yard III" right there.

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im loving the humour in that comment ... gave me a few chuckles





So USC might be the one getting all of the bills? Why wouldn't they charge the Bush family? They accepted it and didnt report it... right? Wouldn't that be tax evasion (Like one of you fine fellas said earlier, just dont feel like doing that whole quote thing )
I'd understand them not wanting to be in the spotlight, but hey - money is money, and our government loves money.

Alk said:

I used to think the same way as you. Then it occured to me. Alot of these players get to come to these colleges for free in exhange for playing football. Alot of these players wouldn't have been accepted into these schools as students even if they paid.

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Well, I guess there's a tangible value of what the tuition, and room and board if that's covered costs -

Football's not the best example as there are a ton of scholarships and players and its not cheap to run a program.

Basketball however is a HUGE moneymaker - tons of profit, and very few scholarships.

I'd like to see some of the hefty profits go into some sort of a continuing education pool for a lot of these kids - I see firsthand that even with free tuition, the schools seem a lot more interested in whether they get to the NCAA tournament than whether they are actually learning anything in college

Effectively they get used and only a very small percentage actually makes it in the pros.

One more thing about Bush and him "laughing all the way to the bank"

If Michael Jackson and other celebrity scandals have taught corporate sponsors anything, its to have a handy clause in any lucrative endorsement deal that allows them to pull the plug in case a celebrity does something illegal or embarrassing.

So while Reggie might be laughing all the way to the bank with his $50 million in endoresements right now, he might want to cash those checks before they wind up getting cancelled.

So top college football players get extra benefits that violate NCAA regulations? Stunning. Next thing you know, college basketball coaches will be buying recruits!!

This story will pretty much be dead in two weeks. Bush just did what more than probably half the guys in the NFL and NBA have done on some level.

It isn't going to hurt his marketability because most everyone assumes that all those guys are taking extra stuff and no one really cares.

All the NCAA will do is slap USC on the wrist and move on.

dhamz said:

So top college football players get extra benefits that violate NCAA regulations? Stunning. Next thing you know, college basketball coaches will be buying recruits!!

This story will pretty much be dead in two weeks. Bush just did what more than probably half the guys in the NFL and NBA have done on some level.

It isn't going to hurt his marketability because most everyone assumes that all those guys are taking extra stuff and no one really cares.

All the NCAA will do is slap USC on the wrist and move on.

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This story has been ongoing since just before the end of the last college season when his family was seen moving out of a multi-million dollar home that they couldn't afford in 100 lifetimes. Some guy came forward the other day and said that during last season, there were some very shady characters coming in and out of USC's lobby. This isn't going away just like that.

Alk said:

This story has been ongoing since just before the end of the last college season when his family was seen moving out of a multi-million dollar home that they couldn't afford in 100 lifetimes. Some guy came forward the other day and said that during last season, there were some very shady characters coming in and out of USC's lobby. This isn't going away just like that.

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Welcome to the board Alk

Hey - you should probably know that there's another guy who has a similar avatar and signature graphic who's been posting here for quite some time

He'd probably be OK with you using them as well but the guy's a bit of a wisea$$ who routinely pi$$es people off so you just might want to make sure no one confuses you with him.

Good to have you on board though.

JoeSixPat said:

Welcome to the board Alk

Hey - you should probably know that there's another guy who has a similar avatar and signature graphic who's been posting here for quite some time

He'd probably be OK with you using them as well but the guy's a bit of a wisea$$ who routinely pi$$es people off so you just might want to make sure no one confuses you with him.

Good to have you on board though.

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Oh yeah? Well I'll have to steer clear of him.