Mike Tomlin, Steelers looking at a fine, and could lose a draft pick

Tunescribe · Dec 4, 2013

PatsDeb said:
Don't get mad, Tune, get even! I hope the Pats go all the way this year. I know I will be at the Superbowl if they make it. I am not really PO'd as this is about what I expected. The fact is, if the refs had handled it right during the game, it probably would have just been a 15 yd. penalty and that would have been the end of it. Now Tomlin gets to be labeled as a cheater. We'll see how he likes it.

It's what I expected as well. I'm not mad about the penalty as much as I am about the politics around it.

PatsDeb · Dec 4, 2013

Froob said:
Shouldn't it be automatic touchdown? He probably makes it all the way, it'd still be bull**** if it's 15yds.

Honestly, I don't think the refs have the guts to do that to Tomlin (heck, they didn't even have the guts to call any penalty during the game!), and under the circumstances. If Tomlin wasn't standing there he might have been knocked out of bounds, or the guy might have caught him anyway, so I think if they called anything, it would have been a 15 yarder, and the league would have said it was appropriate.

zen · Dec 4, 2013

He has 100,000 fine right now according to ESPN.

Froob · Dec 4, 2013

PatsDeb said:
Honestly, I don't think the refs have the guts to do that to Tomlin (heck, they didn't even have the guts to call any penalty during the game!), and under the circumstances. If Tomlin wasn't standing there he might have been knocked out of bounds, or the guy might have caught him anyway, so I think if they called anything, it would have been a 15 yarder, and the league would have said it was appropriate.

In that case, BB may as well tackle anyone who starts running down the sidelines wide open. Hell tackle a wide open receiver, better than getting pass interference. Should be similar to a clear path foul in basketball where you get 2 foul shots and possession of ball, could the defender catch up and stop the ball handler from scoring? Yes. but, we can't assume that.

chasa · Dec 4, 2013

PatsDeb said:
Don't get mad, Tune, get even! I hope the Pats go all the way this year. I know I will be at the Superbowl if they make it. I am not really PO'd as this is about what I expected. The fact is, if the refs had handled it right during the game, it probably would have just been a 15 yd. penalty and that would have been the end of it. Now Tomlin gets to be labeled as a cheater. We'll see how he likes it.

doesn't matter, this season is already tainted after that texan player said we were spying, even as a joke, the damage was done for the media to jump on it like sharks

chasa · Dec 4, 2013

Froob said:
In that case, BB may as well tackle anyone who starts running down the sidelines wide open. Hell tackle a wide open receiver, better than getting pass interference. Should be similar to a clear path foul in basketball where you get 2 foul shots and possession of ball, could the defender catch up and stop the ball handler from scoring? Yes. but, we can't assume that.

if he tackles them soon enough it shouldnt even be a penalty since the ball was uncatchable.

PatsDeb · Dec 4, 2013

Froob said:
In that case, BB may as well tackle anyone who starts running down the sidelines wide open. Hell tackle a wide open receiver, better than getting pass interference. Should be similar to a clear path foul in basketball where you get 2 foul shots and possession of ball, could the defender catch up and stop the ball handler from scoring? Yes. but, we can't assume that.

I said the refs don't have the guts to do that to Tomlin, not BB...

PatsDeb · Dec 4, 2013

chasa said:
doesn't matter, this season is already tainted after that texan player said we were spying, even as a joke, the damage was done for the media to jump on it like sharks

Nah, I don't think so. Everyone (even the media) made fun of this guy for never having heard of something called, "halftime adjustments."

Palm Beach Pats Fan · Dec 4, 2013

Losing a draft pick would be ridiculous overkill.

then again, losing a draft pick due to Cameragate was ridiculous overkill

An action affecting play (Tomlin) is worse than any one of the minor violations of the field operations guide, such as

-openly filming from an improper location,
-overwatering or overgrowing natural turf,
-supplying improperly inflated footballs, or
-not having perfectly level crossbars on the goalposts.

The precedent for such minor violations of the field operations guide seems to be to lose a 1st round pick.

Harsh.

With that in mind, Tomlin should lose two of them!

LiveShot · Dec 4, 2013

If Belichick did that he'd get fined, Kraft would get fined, Pats would lose a 1st round pick and the ESPN would have another topic for the next 3 months.

chasa · Dec 4, 2013

LiveShot said:
If Belichick did that he'd get fined, Kraft would get fined, Pats would lose a 1st round pick and the ESPN would have another topic for the next 3 months.

Belichick was on the stripe during our game too, strip all their titles, give me my ring

Mcnabbbbb

SoCal Pmen · Dec 4, 2013

Palm Beach Pats Fan said:
Losing a draft pick would be ridiculous overkill.

then again, losing a draft pick due to Cameragate was ridiculous overkill

An action affecting play (Tomlin) is worse than any one of the minor violations of the field operations guide, such as

-openly filming from an improper location,
-overwatering or overgrowing natural turf,
-supplying improperly inflated footballs, or
-not having perfectly level crossbars on the goalposts.

The precedent for such minor violations of the field operations guide seems to be to lose a 1st round pick.

Harsh.

With that in mind, Tomlin should lose two of them!

I would add to the list - 'pumping artificial noise' and 'turning up the heat' in dome stadiums (Colts)

Deus Irae · Dec 4, 2013

LiveShot said:
If Belichick did that he'd get fined, Kraft would get fined, Pats would lose a 1st round pick and the ESPN would have another topic for the next 3 months.

Perhaps there's a recent example of BB being punished for misdeeds and things not going the way you claim here....

Jackson 2 · Dec 4, 2013

I believe BB was fined 50K for grabbing the replacement ref's arm looking for an explanation after the Baltimore loss early last season. Mike Tice was fined 100K, I believe, nearly 10 years ago for scalping SB tickets.

PatsWickedPissah · Dec 4, 2013

Don't understand a draft pick potential penalty. The fine was not that big. I think he should also be kicked off the Competition Committee at the very least and then be suspended one game. If he stays on that Committee this becomes a bigger joke than it is already.

Joker · Dec 4, 2013

Tunescribe said:
The Mike Tomlin charade brings into sharp relief how Goodell and the league play favorites to the detriment of the game. Tomlin pulls his nonsense on the sideline intentionally INTERFERING with a play, then yucks it up afterward. He bloviates a faux mea culpa in his press conference, saying all the right things. The league gives him a slap on the wrist and you can bet Tomlin's yucking it up again today.

How would BB have handled it? First of all, BB wouldn't have done what Tomlin did. Secondly, if BB was accused of something similar (as we've seen) he would have deferred comment calling it a "league matter." In other words, he wouldn't have prostrated himself before the Holy Commissioner in the form of ass-kissing public apology.

What we're left with is Tomlin as a newly appointed member of the important NFL competition committee. If anyone BELONGS on the competition committee, it's BB. Fat chance of that ever happening.
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I'd say I predicted this decision but then every one of you know that already. I'd say I've been hammering this obvious Goodelian outrageous bias against our franchise since 2007 but...you all know that also.

Not much more for me to add.

Froob · Dec 4, 2013

PatsDeb said:
I said the refs don't have the guts to do that to Tomlin, not BB...

Ah, gotcha.

Patriot Missile · Dec 4, 2013

Good old Roger justice. How is this worse than what the pitiful Jets did? They actually stuck their leg out and tripped a guy in a purposeful manner. The talk of loss of draft pick should of been directed then. By taking a pick from Pitt just shows hometown favoritism once again.

TonyTucker · Dec 4, 2013

If Belichick did this, we'd have to dig up Arlen Specter and have a congressional hearing.

Kontradiction · Dec 4, 2013

Eh, a draft pick is too harsh for that. A fine would do just right. I wish that Jones would have just ran him over and then, afterward, Tomlin gets fined. That would be an appropriate punishment. But a draft pick is taking things a bit too far, if that turns out to be the case.

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