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don't be fooled......it's the same colts.....forget the playoff games against the worst playoff QB in NFL history (Dalton) and the QB with the most one-and-dones in NFL playoff history (Manning)

The colts are a team that has taken advantage of massive weaknesses....

since they've last played the pats, they've beaten the jags, redskins,browns,texans,titans, bengals, and broncos.........they got pasted by the cowboys in week 16......the cowboy passing game was 19-21 for 261 yards and 5 TD's

while the pats seemingly struggle against the ravens and it seems somewhat by design, that same design crushes teams like the colts.

stork or no stork, if the pats could put up 35 on the ravens, they can put up 50 on the colts.....

I'm not buying the colts...they're a bunch of frauds....they can't stop a decent offense....it's just that they've only faced one since last playing the pats

You're supposed to be terrified and talking about how doomed we are.
 
You're supposed to be terrified and talking about how doomed we are.


bullcrap......it's like the media and the fandom feel they need to look at things a certain way as though it makes a difference.
 
But I'm not buying the "Colts are way better" now line.

Nor should you. From an earlier thread:

The "Colts are so much better!" narrative is interesting considering that they had arguably the least impressive December of any AFC playoff team. Even if I ignore getting curb stomped in Dallas (game meant nothing, sat Hilton), they still were seriously outplayed by Cleveland, could do nothing against Houston and weren't very impressive against TN (though it was a season ender, so it probably shouldn't count either).

As for their much improved running game, this is the yardage by their leading rusher (per game) since December: 37, 60, 3, 35, 56, 63. The 60 and 56 came against two of the worst run defenses in the league, Cleveland and Cincy, and the first 37 was actually Luck. They only had one game that even approaches "impressive" and that is going for 99 on a very good Denver defense. Of course, Denver's offensive woes gave Indy 34 minutes and 11 drives to tally that yardage and Herron only went off for 2.7 ypc.

Run defense does appear improved, but leading up to the earlier game, Balt, Hou, Cincy, Pitt and NYG went off for 90, 136, 32, 117 and 98 respectively. It isn't like everyone was cracking 200 on them and now they've crept back to respectability.

Of course, there are some personnel improvements, with injured guys returning, but overall the playoff success looks far more like favorable match ups than development since November.

The run defense really hasn't changed that much with Arthur Jones back. The bolded totals look awfully similar to the most recent run of allowing 137, 142, 110 and 88. YPC isn't much different either, the numbers for the aforementioned Balt, Hou, Cincy, Pitt and NYG games were 6.0, 5.7, 2.7, 3.7 and 4.4. The most recent run: 3.3, 5.9, 5,3 and 4.4. (I removed the Dallas game because I wasn't sure what to do with it. In fairness to the Colts, they did a very good job on Murray).

An oddity I found when digging through these figures, Cincy only passed for 3.8 ypa, and TN was worse, topping out at a pristine 1.4 ypa! So Indy allowed two teams to run for over 5 ypc when they couldn't pass at all. I don't know whether that speaks highly of their pass defense or poorly of their run defense. Considering the offenses, I'd lean toward the latter but I can't claim to be entirely objective.

Yes, Indy looked impressive against Cincy, but they looked even more impressive against a better Bengal team the first time around. They made Denver look pathetic, but Manning had at least as much to do with that. I'm also puzzled why Denver only had 22 total carries after rewatching that game last night. Sure, there were times when situations forced them to pass, but there were just as many when Denver intentionally took the ball out of Anderson's hands. It was as if they couldn't understand how their September offense wasn't working. Surely it will next drive.

As I wrote above, Indy's running attack isn't really anything to be excited about, either. No, they probably aren't going to rush for 4 yards on 14 carries on Sunday, but that wasn't likely to happen no matter who the running back was. It's more a matter of perspective. Indy's "new and improved" rushing attack would still be one of the worst in the league, it just isn't the abomination it was a few months ago.

Not saying Indy can't win, even in the earlier game, they were only down by a single score in the 4th quarter. If NE's defense doesn't rebound from last week and Luck has a mistake free game, it could certainly come down to a field goal. But the same could have been said even if the earlier Indy team was coming to Foxboro. Any team can lose to any other on any day.

I wouldn't be on it, though.
 
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Arthur Jones is one guy, if he lines up at RDE the Pats could just run behind Vollmer & Gronk/Fleming and over the Colts LDE instead.
Arthur Jones is also Arthur Jones, not some kind of dominant run defender.
Its amazing that because this guy was out in the last game suddenly he is Ted Washington, not the pretty average player he has been his whole career.
 
To me its less complicated. Baltimore was a physical team from a physical conf. Suggs, Dumbledore were elite pass rusher, Ngata was an elite NT and their O Line is Huuuuuuuuuge. Notice how Forsett didn't get much yardage if any after first contact but he ran through huge calls. There were questionable PI calls (well one on Revis) and that Flacco play looked like a fumble. Despite all that NE threw for ridiculous yards and scored 5 TDs.

The Colts are not as physical or intimidating on D. Their O line is not as huge and their Red Zone play is OK at best. They only scored 24 vs. Denver. They beat Cinci w/o Green and Gresham.

Does not mean they are not a good team but the Ravens were much better.
 
Arthur Jones is also Arthur Jones, not some kind of dominant run defender.
Its amazing that because this guy was out in the last game suddenly he is Ted Washington, not the pretty average player he has been his whole career.
He's going to be responsible for IND shedding around 150 yards from the ground total they allowed last time!

As you said, he's a decent player but not some dominant DL that makes offensive coordinators scheme to stop him.
 
Arthur Jones is one guy, if he lines up at RDE the Pats could just run behind Vollmer & Gronk/Fleming and over the Colts LDE instead.

Brady is "just one guy". Vince Wilfork is "just one guy". Players like Brady, Wilfork and Jones make the players around them better. Underestimating the impact that Jones has on that defense is sheer folly.

Jones impact is felt on the field in attitude as much as it is in skill. And that attitude is contagious.

These Pats aren't the same Pats that the Colts faced. We have Blount and Chandler Jones.
 
Brady is "just one guy". Vince Wilfork is "just one guy". Players like Brady, Wilfork and Jones make the players around them better. Underestimating the impact that Jones has on that defense is sheer folly.

Jones impact is felt on the field in attitude as much as it is in skill. And that attitude is contagious.

These Pats aren't the same Pats that the Colts faced. We have Blount and Chandler Jones.


Arthur Jones is not on the same level in anything football related as Tom Brady or Vince Wilfork.

Sorry, but that was just a terrible analogy.

Marquice Cole had a great attitude also.

Meanwhile, I do agree with your last sentence.
 
I do recall when Bob Sanders came back the Indi run d became great and was terrible. Doubt Jones is the next Bob Sanders.
 
I just think that what Chatham says makes a ton of sense. Indy is one game from the Super Bowl just like NE is, they have some additions and subtractions just like NE does, they need to be respected just like NE. I expect a closer and tougher game than IND has provided of late, and truthfully it'll be disappointing if IND gets blown out, I want to see their best so NE can prep for the Super Bowl with a tough opponent.
 
I just think that what Chatham says makes a ton of sense. Indy is one game from the Super Bowl just like NE is, they have some additions and subtractions just like NE does, they need to be respected just like NE. I expect a closer and tougher game than IND has provided of late, and truthfully it'll be disappointing if IND gets blown out, I want to see their best so NE can prep for the Super Bowl with a tough opponent.

Disappointed with a blowout? Those are my favorite types of wins. Less stress and less years off your life.
 
I just want the Patriots to kick their ass. Really, everything else I could say would just be redundant.
 
Arthur Jones is also Arthur Jones, not some kind of dominant run defender.
Its amazing that because this guy was out in the last game suddenly he is Ted Washington, not the pretty average player he has been his whole career.

I was starting to wonder if I missed the game where Jones solidified himself as some sort of run stuffing super-star. People are making his impact out as if it is equal to JJ Watt. He's decent and not a notch above.
 
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