(Merged x3) It's All Happening!!! PFT Now Blames The NFL For Tarnishing The PATS Image

FrodoBagginz · Jan 25, 2015

nowayback said:
You understand if Schefter got that info, it was probably from Kensil . Why isn't the nfl frustrated about the leaks? Isnt that what a big business does first when they set forth an inquiry? They made sure players and owners don't chime in anymore about this. Either kensil(goodell doesnt know) is leaking info, or its all from the colts.

Most peoples "league source" are just imaginary friends.

Jim Colclough fan · Jan 25, 2015

Silver Blue&Red said:
This is something many of us suspected from the very early stages of this. It just reeked of sour grapes. Way too many coincidences. Who knows? Too many conflicting "leaked sources". Which one do you believe? So many people jumping to their own conclusions, based on personal vendettas. I am salivating thinking about the ramifications if the stories I lean towards are true. From the get go, I been all but convinced it was a setup. I did, however waiver a little on TBs guilt a little, and thought he would "confess" in his presser.

Brady will be OK - he's been upfront and BB has his back

Danger Zone · Jan 25, 2015

FrodoBagginz said:
Most peoples "league source" are just imaginary friends.

I don't know where you are getting your information from, but my league sources are telling me that some of them are actually real. Or so they say..

Fansince77 · Jan 25, 2015

Rob0729 said:
Florio wrote a column blasting the NFL in their part for Deflategate. In his piece, he writes that his sources say that only the intercepted ball was down by 2 LBs PSI and the other 10 were closer to 1 PSI.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/

So the one ball that the league cannot prove chain of custody was down to 10.5 PSI and the rest were around 11.5 PSI. Yet, the report was all were at 10.5 PSI.

If all the other balls were only down 1 PSI and the ball that was intercepted by the Colts is down 2 PSI, shouldn't the league be looking into whether the ball intercepted by the Colts was tampered with to start this investigation? Isn't it a little convenient that the Colts would have intercepted the one ball that was double all the others in terms of the amount below the required limit?

This is what I have been saying recently..If the Colts knew about any of this before hand, perhaps THEY are the Team that tampered with their own Balls...Easy to have your Balls within the 12.5 and 13.5 if you know whats coming, inflate to or even above 13.5 out in the Cold nstead of indoors...I smell a Rat, or a sewer or rats.

Dr Pain · Jan 25, 2015

Fansince77 said:
This is what I have been saying recently..If the Colts knew about any of this before hand, perhaps THEY are the Team that tampered with their own Balls...Easy to have your Balls within the 12.5 and 13.5 if you know whats coming, inflate to or even above 13.5 out in the Cold nstead of indoors...I smell a Rat, or a sewer or rats.

That only 1 Patriots ball was 2 PSI off and this is the one the Colts had proves the Colts tampered as the other 10 were only 1 PSI less. Science affects them all equally so human tampering on the ball the Colts had only possible explanation. 12th ball in the stands after a TD

farn · Jan 25, 2015

This is starting to look and sound like Kerrigan / Ford ice skating....

PatsWickedPissah · Jan 25, 2015

I'm not running with the new revised psi story until #s are confirmed.
Too much risk of "confirmation bias" believing tweets you want to believe.

That said, I've been Boyle's Law explains it since I 1st posted that here Monday

Danger Zone · Jan 25, 2015

PatsWickedPissah said:
I'm not running with the new revised psi story until #s are confirmed.
Too much risk of "confirmation bias" believing tweets you want to believe.

That said, I've been Boyle's Law explains it since I 1st posted that here Monday

I don't believe Boyle's Law is applicable here (unless you think it's all about wet leather expanding?). Boyles Law is all about the relationship between pressure and the volume of a container when mass and temperature remain constant.

And Gay-Lussac's Law is all about the effect of temperature has on pressure.

Charlotte Pats Fan · Jan 25, 2015

farn said:
This is starting to look and sound like Kerrigan / Ford ice skating....

You mean Harding.... WTF is Ford?

Big-T · Jan 25, 2015

Richard Sherman is going to get fined big time for what he just said.

Thinks the league are more bothered in fining Marshawn Lynch than punishing the Patriots if they're guilty.

Charlotte Pats Fan · Jan 25, 2015

Big-T said:
Richard Sherman is going to get fined big time for what he just said.

Thinks the league are more bothered in fining Marshawn Lynch than punishing the Patriots if they're guilty.

Spotlights off little **** he's not happy.

neuronet · Jan 25, 2015

Dr Pain said:
That only 1 Patriots ball was 2 PSI off and this is the one the Colts had proves the Colts tampered as the other 10 were only 1 PSI less. Science affects them all equally so human tampering on the ball the Colts had only possible explanation. 12th ball in the stands after a TD

It could be the others were all in the ball bag and dry, so only underwent the process BB talked about . The one they got was also in the rain, so lowered pressure even more.

Charlotte Pats Fan · Jan 25, 2015

neuronet said:
It could be the others were all in the ball bag and dry, so only underwent the process BB talked about . The one they got was also in the rain, so lowered pressure even more.

Or the trainers that Jackson gave the ball too took it upon themself to let a little more air out of the ball.

Dr Pain · Jan 25, 2015

neuronet said:
It could be the others were all in the ball bag and dry, so only underwent the process BB talked about . The one they got was also in the rain, so lowered pressure even more.

Not a chance they swap balls all the time. No scientific explanation leaves only tampering (Colts)

zoostation · Jan 25, 2015

The Boston Patriot said:
I don't believe that for a second.

Also, someone needs to come up with the new 'gate' name for this as it seems it might have legs.

I've translated spygate and deflategate into wingate, because that's what we do ..... and that and jealousy have made the opposing fans and mediots start all the stupid gates. My second choice was hategate, I liked the rimeing aspect.

But Sunday around 10pm I'll be calling it Lombardigate !

PatsWickedPissah · Jan 25, 2015

Danger Zone said:
I don't believe Boyle's Law is applicable here (unless you think it's all about wet leather expanding?). Boyles Law is all about the relationship between pressure and the volume of a container when mass and temperature remain constant.

The law the physicists are all referring to is Gay-Lussac's Law.

Actually the PV=nRT is the Ideal Gas Law
that's the one physicists & engineers are using to calculate the changes in pressure for a given change in temperature

Danger Zone · Jan 25, 2015

PatsWickedPissah said:
Actually the PV=nRT is the Ideal Gas Law

Ok. I always thought that the Idea Gas Law was more of a generalization of several gas laws.

EDIT: At great danger of over simplifying, it seems like the math of Ideal Gas Law and Gay-Lussac's Law both get us to the right conclusion but it's the Gay-Lussac Law portion of the Ideal Gas Law that is doing all the real work.

billikens · Jan 25, 2015

One explanation that the Colts ball would be lower is because every time you test the pressure (i.e., stick a gauge into it), it loses a little pressure. How many times did the Colts test it before handing it over to the officials? I bet you more than once.

RobertWeathers · Jan 25, 2015

Charlotte Pats Fan said:
You mean Harding.... WTF is Ford?

farn got his presidents mixed up. He meant Calvin Coolidge or Rutherford B. Hayes.

Dr Pain · Jan 25, 2015

billikens said:
One explanation that the Colts ball would be lower is because every time you test the pressure (i.e., stick a gauge into it), it loses a little pressure. How many times did the Colts test it before handing it over to the officials? I bet you more than once.

We have to demand an answer because I want to see Indy get into explaining all this instead of the Patriots. Let Indy explain how the ball in their care was significantly less than the others. Any explanation they come up would apply to the Patriots balls. Indy looses 1 PSI testing Patriots balls? NFL looses 1 PSI testing Patriots balls etc... NFL has to answer this as I believe the answer is they deflated it to make their case to the reffs. This is tampering.

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