I think some of you here are looking for a scapegoat towards which to spit vitriol at because you are embarrassed by this news. Let me be clear. I am not accusing BB or the Pats of anything here. I'm simply stating my opinion. That it wouldn't surprise me, and yes that I think it's possible, and...
Yeah all that is nice, but no interpretation needed to be made dude. You were not allowed. They sent out memos. It was considered cheating. He did it anyway. Pretty cut and dry. BB doesn't get to interpret that rule how he wants, and do it anyway. If you believe that, so be it. I'm sure you...
They taped opponent's hand signals which was against the rules at that point, and BB knew it. Videotaping hand signals in the NFL was, at that point, has been ever since and continues to be considered cheating. Not sure what is there to explain.
That's delusional. And since all you are capable of are personal insults, like a few others on here, when someone has a different viewpoint, there's hardly a point in me continuing arguing with people like you.
Yes. It was cheating. And I accept it for what it was. You want to brainwash yourself so you can continue pulling for the Pats in all their honest glory because perhaps it goes against your personal principles and it's how you cope. Not all fans need to do that. I can live with dirt and still...
And he isn't. Which it could mean he believes he can get away with it. Sometimes he's wrong though. He got caught last time. But as I said, sometimes he might just be getting targeted. He believes teams do certain things, and the NFL allows them to get away with them, and sometimes he gets...
Ok you are justifying the last time he blatantly cheated as not cheating, but he did exactly that. It was a means to a win. That's what it was. And it did end up tarnishing his reputation as far as public perception goes.
I'm justifying it too. Except mine is more blunt. It just makes logical...
Well...uhm..the easiest move to make is to fire BB and he didn't. I am not making any accusations against our Pats specifically. I believe all teams cheat behind the scenes. I'm accusing them of possibly getting caught again.
**** the haters. Screw the crybaby fans. Go Cheatriots!
Hearing other franchises wine afterwards makes it all the sweeter, and it does make up for every time we got screwed over.
I would need to know all the details, to draw a conclusion on if the punishments you are talking about were just...
Spygate ruined our brand? The Patriots have been getting even more rich since. The team's value has grown. The benefits of winning, even while punished for cheating, outweighed the repercussions.
That's just a fact.
He'll be even richer if we win this Superbowl, even if it turns out we cheated...
I don't buy this at ALL and never have. Kraft is one of the most powerful owners in the NFL and we are now the 2nd most valuable franchise behind the Cowboys. Goodell would be out of a damn job, if he was constantly screwing over Kraft's team. Come on guys.
You get on a Jets forum, they say...
Publicly. How do you know what he told him privately? It's BB's job to take the fall. You don't actually expect Kraft to condone it publicly, do you?
He called him a shmuck? The horror! Where was the assurance? Punishment from Kraft? What moves did Kraft make to make sure it would never happen...
It's just my opinion. I think if anything like that was happening, it is my opinion, nothing would take place without BB knowing.
He has already put all those accolades in the past in jeopardy. It was against the rules to continue Spygate, and he did. It was blatant. The fact it was blatant...
I love the Pats and I can continue loving the Pats even if they are shown to be full blown cheaters. Seems to me you do. I think this is why you have a hard time fathoming it.
Yep. To take it further, it's not just possible, it could even be considered the logical thing to do.
Look the way I see it, there's isn't a more cold blooded, logical, and calculated coach in the NFL. And I don't believe Bill's goal is to win with honor or fairly. Obviously we already know...
I mean my argument is what it is. We're being investigated for it.
Now you are saying the act of deflating balls is impossible. Ok. How did Lane Kiffin do it?
Where? The only thing I said is that it seems to me we are specifically being investigated for it, and it's not just standard procedure, and then sources came out afterwards and are backing that and the original source.
I think they can be proven to be innocent, or better said not guilty. And I...
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