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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.We had multiple posters on here who whenever anyone would talk about issues between Bill and Tom or the benching of Butler that is was all untrue and media driven. The big bad media.Poor @upstater all of his "theories " and "realities " exposed for what they are, utter falsehoods and bull ****.
Obviously and hopefully some day somehow he will but I also thought some of those moments where they asked him stuff and he just stared back or said he already covered it was gold.Too bad Bill didn’t want to open up for this series. That was the biggest negative of the whole thing.
WHat did they confirm? Nothing new came out. Butler doesn't know, no one knows. Players were always saying they don't know. Nothing new came out.We had multiple posters on here who whenever anyone would talk about issues between Bill and Tom or the benching of Butler that is was all untrue and media driven. The big bad media.
A lot of these posters should be eating crow now that the players and owner have publicly confirmed what many of us were talking about. Andy must have cried watching this series.
I see absolutely no reason why he would ever open up. He'd look as foolish as Kraft looks right now if he did.Obviously and hopefully some day somehow he will but I also thought some of those moments where they asked him stuff and he just stared back or said he already covered it was gold.
"you want me on that wall -- you need me on that wall"
Did you watch? Pretty obvious from the players and owner the 2017 season and especially the Butler benching was a huge issue for them. You had players and the owner saying that Bill treated Brady like ****. And you’re ignoring all that and putting it on Guerrero? WTF??2019 season was ignored.
My only tidbit of information in all this was that Kraft reinstalled Guerrero as Brady demanded, and this more than anything is what pissed Belichick off and lead to the end.
If not for the Guerrero saga, I don't think 2018 and 2019 would have so much rancor.
IIRC Belichick changed his approach with Randy Moss back in 2007 as well. Pumping his tires constantly (Moss deserved the accolades. But BB clearly treated other players who also deserved them differently).Well, yeah, but I mean he changed in his grumpiness. Look at the footage ... He's telling them they suck after winning the AFCCG. That's not a good look IMO. He didn't act like that earlier in the run. I think as he got older, he got even more set in his ways, to your point. He knew being a **** worked so that's what he did all the time, and he knew what he had.
Look how differently he treated Cam. He pumped his tires often, to coin a phrase. I am sure part of that was because he agree to play for a pittance, in NFL terms, but it was 180 degrees from how he treated Brady.
Nothing new came out? Did you sleep through the episode?WHat did they confirm? Nothing new came out. Butler doesn't know, no one knows. Players were always saying they don't know. Nothing new came out.
What came out is what a lot of us have been saying, it was personal, not football related. Kraft confirmed it.WHat did they confirm? Nothing new came out. Butler doesn't know, no one knows. Players were always saying they don't know. Nothing new came out.
No point even pointing out the obvious to him. He only sees what he wants to see.What came out is what a lot of us have been saying, it was personal, not football related. Kraft confirmed it.
The problem was it was filmed while he still was the HC so the the timing was bad.Too bad Bill didn’t want to open up for this series. That was the biggest negative of the whole thing.
Was it Bil or was it Tom is the wrong question. They would have won multiple SB with another great coach or QB."When I hear was it Bill, was it Tom It's just.... It's disrespectful. I think it's disrespectful to every player that helped the Patriots win a championship." - Pioli
Crazy trick at the end there with smell-o-vision and the onions.
Think through what you just typed. Bill benches the best DB in the SB we lost because we could not stop a cold and he did not tell anyone why.WHat did they confirm? Nothing new came out. Butler doesn't know, no one knows. Players were always saying they don't know. Nothing new came out.