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Jets structured Revis' contract so that it was near impossible for the Pats to match


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It'll be fun watching offenses eat up clock and convert 3d downs at an alarming rate (see 10-13 pats defenses) next year....all because kraft wanted to add to his pot o' gold....kraftys a real leprechaun, just watch him at the st Patrick day bkfst!!!!
Got anything about the Revis contract? Otherwise I direct you to one of two other long threads in which you can join the chorus of doom and gloom.
 
Don't think it was about us matching. Sounds like he honestly would have taken less. What we were offering and what he wanted we do not know for sure.
 
What a crazy world we live in when men are paid that kind of money for playing a sport.
 
It'll be fun watching offenses eat up clock and convert 3d downs at an alarming rate (see 10-13 pats defenses) next year....all because kraft wanted to add to his pot o' gold....kraftys a real leprechaun, just watch him at the st Patrick day bkfst!!!!
Seriously, grow up.
 
What a crazy world we live in when men are paid that kind of money for playing a sport.

Or for starring in a movie, or for being a famous CEO or for singing songs someone else wrote.

The 4 richest people in the world could end world hunger and still have 75% of their net worth. The world is a very weird place.
 
Hold out, get released, sign with the Patriots, win a Super Bowl in Tom Brady's final season...
We could only be so lucky
 
Some folks in here take this WAY too seriously....
Nice, understanding what your problem is is the first step toward overcoming it.
 
It's too bad the Pats weren't able to get into position to exercise the $20m option for another year!
 
I don't see any new information in this thread... these details were reported the day he signed the deal. Patriots "could have" matched if they really wanted to but chose not to.

My conclusion is the opposite of the OP's. The Jets could have screwed the Patriots by giving Revis a huge signing bonus right now (without spreading it out.) They could have, say, given him a $25M payday for year one and then less in later years, since they had the cap room to do it and New England did not. However, they probably would not have done that because they know Revis would just hold out after this year.

A large signing bonus would have made it easier for the Pats to match because it would have spread over the five years. Base salaries hit in the year they are realized. I think the Pats would have been more likely to match the offer in that scenario because it would have lowered the cap hits the first three years. What the Jets did was front load the cap hits the first three years which is stupid.
 
The Jets had 55m in cap space. There wasn't any way in hell he was coming back once he became a free agent. If you think the Jets stop bidding, if Pats up offer. You're kidding yourself. Only way he stays is if we'd have picked up 20m option. Wouldn't have McCourty, Sheard, Chandler and others.

If you asked everyone *before revis left* if they would rather have revis or the guys you just named, what do you think most people would pick?
 
If you asked everyone *before revis left* if they would rather have revis or the guys you just named, what do you think most people would pick?

Personally, for me, outside of TFB, 3 > 1.
 
Sorry, I'm not following. How do these breakdowns change our perception of Revis's new contract? We already knew of 16m, 17m, then 6m being fully guaranteed (and tough to match especially with the 5m carryover from last season.). I agree the Pats really weren't in position to match it...but what is it about either tweet that makes anything new?

Because the cap hits are seriously front loaded. Instead of a normal contract with this much guarantees, he is going to have a yearly cap hit of $16-18 million a year his first three years rather than a $10-12 million cap hit by spreading out bonus money over 5 years. This will benefit the Jets in 2018 when they want cut him or take a pay cut, but hurts them cap wise the next three. But unlike the Pats, they have tons of cap room this year.
 
It'll be fun watching offenses eat up clock and convert 3d downs at an alarming rate (see 10-13 pats defenses) next year....all because kraft wanted to add to his pot o' gold....kraftys a real leprechaun, just watch him at the st Patrick day bkfst!!!!

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If you asked everyone *before revis left* if they would rather have revis or the guys you just named, what do you think most people would pick?
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You're forgetting a key word in my post "others." I still haven't spent 20m with the 3 I mentioned.
 
This the information that the rabid mediots have had for a LONG time yet refuse to let the public know. THEY keep harping on the guaranteed dollars and telling us, "if only the Pats had gone a few million higher they Revis would have come back" NOTHING can be further from the truth for 4 reasons.

1. It was the structure of the deal that made it impossible to match. A 16MM cap # in 2015 would have given Revis a $21MM cap number. Think about it. Even AFTER shedding Revis' $20MM, AFTER Browner's $5MM and Vince's $8MM....AND DA's restructure the Pats were STILL only $10-12MM under the cap. There is no question that some significant cuts would have had to happen. Just look at the wholesale slaughter going on in Miami to get Suh on board. It wouldn't have been THAT bad, but some people would have to go and we'd be struggling just to get our draft class signed and stay under the cap.

The Pats could have matched the numbers, but their structure would have had to backload the deal, rather than front load it like the Jets could afford to do.....and even then it wouldn't have been sound cap management, but at least it would have been doable.

2. The Pats, who have drafted well recently have some big bills to pay future core players like Solder, Hightower, Collins, Jones, and Gronk.....and that's just a start. MAYBE, just maybe they might have been able to keep everyone for 2016, but beyond that it would have given the Pats a roster that was fine at the top, but thin at the bottom....and that's NOT what they believe will allow you to win in the NFL.

3. The fact remained that had the Pats matched or come closer to the Jets offer, they simply would have offer MORE. This was more than just getting a good player. This about regaining some credibility in their own market, competition with the Giants for media coverage, and holding on to their season ticket holder base, who was on the verge of revolt. There was no way they weren't going to top the Pats best offer....and they did. If you want to criticize the Pats, criticize them for not getting the Jets to give Revis even more ;)

4. And this is the most important reason. Revis WANTS to be in NY. Its as simple as that. All things being equal, Revis was going back to NY Contrary to the popular wisdom of that time, everyone thought that if the Pats were merely close, he'd come back to win championships. That was NOT the case.

Revis is a HOF player. He's a great teammate and a hard worker. But he's also wired differently. It doesn't make him a bad person, just different. And I don't think it was just about the money. He got his ring and all the creditability to his legacy that brings. He doesn't need another. Winning the superbowl probably hurt the Pats chances of bringing him back.

So instead of being the 4th or 5th most important person in NE (after BB, Kraft, Brady,and Gronk), he could be THE face of the entire franchise. Much bigger than the owner, coach or any player. Not only that, he can take most of the credit for any and all improvements to that franchise. And God forbid, if they, by some miracle, ever win a superbowl during the next 5 years, imagine what his legacy would be then. Compare that to being "an important piece of a puzzle" here in NE.

It was that "possibility" that made it easy for him to go back to NJ. There WAS no comparison to his way of thinking. The evidence was there for all to see, but going back to the Jets seemed just so....so....ludicrous and illogical that we couldn't see the forest for the trees.

The crime here (beyond the Jets tampering), is that the media HAS the full story, yet they still subject us to the same old Borges/Felger/Shaunnessy/etc position, over and over and over and over again
 
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