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Pick 1 or more: How should the Ravens be penalized for hiding wife abuse video & evidence from NFL?

  • Loss of 1st Round Pick

    Votes: 29 70.7%
  • Loss of 2nd or 3rd Round Pick

    Votes: 7 17.1%
  • A Small Fine (donated to an non-profit)

    Votes: 4 9.8%
  • A Large Fine

    Votes: 17 41.5%
  • Suspend Ravens leadership

    Votes: 18 43.9%
  • No penalty

    Votes: 1 2.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 4 9.8%

  • Total voters
    41
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Let's focus on the role of the Ravens organization in the Report (rather than Rice, Goodell or NFL).

The report says Ravens promised to keep the NFL in the loop with any information they get and also The Ravens possessed [info about the complete video sequence] and well understood that the events inside the elevator were under League investigation. They should have shared with the League information critical to its investigation.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ren-sanders-details-casino-elevator/21463233/


1) The local police informed the Ravens that they were able to recover the in-elevator abuse video, which better explained what happened than the outside-the-elevator aftermath video. The Ravens did not pass this information to the NFL.

2) The police also sent the Ravens a textual description of the in-elevator video. The Ravens, of course, did not share this the textual description with the NFL, either, as they did not tell the NFL of the in-elevator video's existence at all.

3) The Ravens organization and lawyers were instrumental in convincing the prosecutors not to forward the evidence to the NFL (which was waiting to hear the outcome of the criminal case) and to successfully drop charges.

4) The Ravens leaders appeared in Goodell's office to have the abused wife apologize and take blame for the abuse, without telling the NFL the police found the actual video and that the Ravens also had knowledge of the full description of the contents that showed the abused wife was lying about taking the blame. In other words, the Ravens were actively lying to the NFL, not just hiding evidence.

What should the penalty be, if any?

For comparison, the Patriots shared all in-game video recordings of opposing coaches they ever recorded with the NFL. In return, they were fined, lost a first round pick, and had negative rumors throughout their Super Bowl run even though other coaches admitted to having such videos themselves.

As another example, the Patriots also cut a player and stopped selling his merchandise just HOURS after he was arrested for murder charges, and have to live with a 10 million dollars against the cap, plus allowed Hernandez jerseys to be exchanged for free, worth $250,000 of a loss due to the swap.

On the other hand, the 1) Ravens had knowledge of the actual abuse video (rather than aftermath) and 2) exactly what it contained, and 3) did everything they could to lie to the NFL, 4) used the victim as a prop, and 5) hid the video evidence, and 6) cycled through prosecutors until they could find one to drop the case, to bury the video and both the criminal punishment as well as the league punishment.
 
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I have no idea what should be done to the Ravens, but I know what WILL be done. Nothing. Because if the NFL punishes them at all, the Ravens will tattle that the NFL actually did know more than they said. NFL won't poke that bear.
 
The report is a white wash that does just what the NFL wanted it to do, and does not have input from the two biggest sources of info in the story (police/Associated Press). It recommends that the NFL do more investigating on its own, when it doesn't belong doing any in the first place. It also basically runs counter to what the appellate judge found about the NFL and its veracity/believability. Is anyone really surprised.?
 
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The fact that this despicable bunch is still playing should be more than enough to demonstrate that, if there is a God, s/he surely doesn't give a **** about football games.
 
Let's focus on the role of the Ravens organization in the Report (rather than Rice, Goodell or NFL).

1) The local police informed the Ravens that they were able to recover the in-elevator abuse video, which better explained what happened than the outside-the-elevator aftermath video. The Ravens did not pass this information to the NFL.

2) The police also sent the Ravens a textual description of the in-elevator video. The Ravens, of course, did not share this the textual description with the NFL, either, as they did not tell the NFL of the in-elevator video's existence at all.

3) The Ravens organization and lawyers were instrumental in convincing the prosecutors not to forward the evidence to the NFL (which was waiting to hear the outcome of the criminal case) and to successfully drop charges.

4) The Ravens leaders appeared in Goodell's office to have the abused wife apologize and take blame for the abuse, without telling the NFL the police found the actual video and that the Ravens also had knowledge of the full description of the contents that showed the abused wife was lying about taking the blame. In other words, the Ravens were actively lying to the NFL, not just hiding evidence.

What should the penalty be, if any?

For comparison, the Patriots shared all in-game video recordings of opposing coaches they ever recorded with the NFL. In return, they were fined, lost a first round pick, and had negative rumors throughout their Super Bowl run even though other coaches admitted to having such videos themselves.

As another example, the Patriots also cut a player and stopped selling his merchandise just HOURS after he was arrested for murder charges, and have to live with a 10 million dollars against the cap, plus allowed Hernandez jerseys to be exchanged for free, worth $250,000 of a loss due to the swap.

On the other hand, the 1) Ravens had knowledge of the actual abuse video (rather than aftermath) and 2) exactly what it contained, and 3) did everything they could to lie to the NFL, 4) used the victim as a prop, and 5) hid the video evidence, and 6) cycled through prosecutors until they could find one to drop the case, to bury the video and both the criminal punishment as well as the league punishment.
I can get you an excellent price on a bridge for sale that connects Brooklyn to Manhattan.
 
All you need to know about the NFL was shown Saturday night when the announcers praised Sugg's play and leadership before heading to commercial break. The commercial was the NFL hard to talk about spousal abuse ad. Given that Suggs is a serial wife beater - not to mention a child abuser, only the NFL fails to see the irony.
 
That commercial is pathetic

When I see

"No more 'but it's only nagging, and he just won't listen.'"

"No more 'But I'm a small woman, and he's a man, so he can take it.'"

instead of "No more acting like anything approaching a male human being"

type commercials, I'll take that stuff a bit more seriously.
 
I wish Roger Goodell would die t

Because he's getting kind of fat.
 
That commercial is pathetic
Agreed. It's ridiculously fake. "OK, now hyperventilate and make it look like you're really upset."

It's just like the NFL to take us all for idiots. They should start with a disclaimer -- This commercial is intended for Jets fans only.
 
"No more.... self righteous celebrities pretending they're champions of a cause by lecturing me about domestic violence via quoting excuses nobody has ever used before."
 
Between this info on the Ravens bad behavior in all this, and the Woody tampering, its time for Bob Kraft to stand up and be more than just a good steward of his team and a good company man for the league. If he does nothing about either of these 2 examples of gross maleficence, then he will deserve to have his team taken advantage of by every team in the league in the future.

Time to STAND UP, Bob.
 
Between this info on the Ravens bad behavior in all this, and the Woody tampering, its time for Bob Kraft to stand up and be more than just a good steward of his team and a good company man for the league. If he does nothing about either of these 2 examples of gross maleficence, then he will deserve to have his team taken advantage of by every team in the league in the future.

Time to STAND UP, Bob.
He won't. First, and foremost, he's a company man. He took spygate lying down with his *** wide open. He's not creating furor over this stuff.
 
When I see

"No more 'but it's only nagging, and he just won't listen.'"

"No more 'But I'm a small woman, and he's a man, so he can take it.'"

instead of "No more acting like anything approaching a male human being"

type commercials, I'll take that stuff a bit more seriously.


And, of course, some sad clown hits that with a dislike...
 
Have you seen the new John Harbaugh slogan on hats and T-shirts? (This is real.) "4 Fights Every Day." Makes me wonder if this really means ... Wife, girlfriend, mother, sister.
 
I don't know what the league should do about the Ravens, but I will speak for all the Patriots haters and conspiracy nuts and call for the Pats to be forced to forfeit the game on Saturday and be stripped of their first round pick. It is so clear that Kraft had Godell release these report right before the AFC Divisional game so that the Ravens would be distracted. This obvious form of cheating cannot go unpunished.

I just figured I would get ahead of this theory before they post it on what is left of Jets Insider.
 
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