Also.....do their best to stop other teams poaching them...do the Pats pay their coaches well ?I agree. The Groh/Wolf combo seems to be doing OK. Leave it alone.
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Also.....do their best to stop other teams poaching them...do the Pats pay their coaches well ?I agree. The Groh/Wolf combo seems to be doing OK. Leave it alone.
there were more than a few rough draft classes over that period that led to the massive free agency over pays of 2021... combined with his flirtations with Houston a year before he left, I don't see it happening...That's tough looking at 2019's group and knowing that in a couple years, three of those guys named would be GMs somewhere else.
I get your point, but Caserio was "the guy" from 2009 all the way through 2020 in NE. If he lost his job I don't think it'd be hard to imagine NE would be opposed to finding a role for him even if it was just short term.
Sorry I meant management team / front officeAlso.....do their best to stop other teams poaching them...do the Pats pay their coaches well ?
Why on earth would you want that ?I Just want Obrein a
Belichick must be the luckiest guy on Earth. Based on what I read here, he can't coach, he can't manage, he can't evaluate players and staff, he is incapable of putting a competitive team together. It just boggles the mind trying to comprehend how he has been so successful.I Just want Obrein and Wolf and Groh to pick the offensive players and Bill and Mayo and staff the D.
Keep Bill far away offensive skill players.
Thanks for the post. My first thought after I read the list was, "Bill's "GM tree" had done a LOT better than his coaching tree".Been looking thru the staff lists over the past 20 odd years ... there has not been a single instance of a front office employee returning to the Patriots after they have left... i don't think Caserio is coming back... i put the list in a quote box because its so long... expand it to see the list of names/positions
Maybe, to unboggle your mind, you might want to consider that what once was might not always be. Are there really no examples you can think of where someone who was highly successful declined in success over time?Belichick must be the luckiest guy on Earth. Based on what I read here, he can't coach, he can't manage, he can't evaluate players and staff, he is incapable of putting a competitive team together. It just boggles the mind trying to comprehend how he has been so successful.
Maybe, to unboggle your mind, you might want to consider that what once was might not always be. Are there really no examples you can think of where someone who was highly successful declined in success over time?
Belichick wasn’t lucky at all. At his apex, he was the best coach pro football has ever known. As they say down south, “he could take yours and beat his”. But, unless you want to attribute all the Patriots success to their former QB, you have to admit there’s been a considerable decline in success in Foxboro because in no small part of the decline in performance by the HC/GM over what had previously been his norm.
edit: Poor reading comprehension on my part.Well, I dunno. He's really bad at picking football players. Is that an important aspect of the GM job?
Ex-Patriots Scout Reportedly Rejoining New England Front Office
The New England Patriots are adding a familiar face to their scouting department ahead of the 2023 NFL season.nesn.com
No one has ever seen the two of us in the same room, at the same time, so...BTTA spotted at Logan
low level scout.... not the same thing, is it?Ex-Patriots Scout Reportedly Rejoining New England Front Office
The New England Patriots are adding a familiar face to their scouting department ahead of the 2023 NFL season.nesn.com
Left here as a Pro Scout and advanced to VP of player personnel in Carolina. So, yes I do. At the time, it was reported there was competition for his services, but he chose to return to New England.low level scout.... not the same thing, is it?
Why? slow time of the year, lots of stuff gets around...Left here as a Pro Scout and advanced to VP of player personnel in Carolina. So, yes I do. At the time, it was reported there was competition for his services, but he chose to return to New England.
The real significance to this thread of Stewart’s returning appears in Zuma’s post. The news was first reported by a reporter for a TV station in Houston. Why would a guy based in Houston have the scoop on a former Carolina executive returning to the NE Patriots? Is it just a coincidence the reporter is based in the city Caserio now works? Has this been in the works for awhile, and the Patriots added Stewart in anticipation of Caserio’s return?
Belichick must be the luckiest guy on Earth. Based on what I read here, he can't coach, he can't manage, he can't evaluate players and staff, he is incapable of putting a competitive team together. It just boggles the mind trying to comprehend how he has been so successful.