Free Agent QB Baker Mayfield

[kevan]

I take back what I said about Fant could be an ok signing decent numbers not Great.

It coulda been better. He had to deal with injuries. But the dude is an absolute freak. And he's young won't cost much. He could get a lot better. Pats will carry 3 TEs I'm cool with Shultz or fant being 1 of em

 

[PatsFan2]

It coulda been better. He had to deal with injuries. But the dude is an absolute freak. And he's young won't cost much. He could get a lot better. Pats will carry 3 TEs I'm cool with Shultz or fant being 1 of em

I would go all out for Dalton Schultz in FA and may be Ben Sinnott in the Fourth Round. That said I am cool with Fant he won't break the bank and is still young.

 

[Ivan]

That’s what the experts say and they also said the 2021 class could be better than the 1983 class. I think halfway through the 2024 college season there will be QB’s climbing the draft ladder. The Mel Kipers and all the others really don’t have a clue.

I don’t pay much attention to Kiper, but I do pay attention to what some other draft analysts ( Jeremiah/ Renner…..) say, and they have been tracking the younger college QB’s, and whether it’s a strong class or not. Yes, QB’s will always be at the top of draft boards, because of the nature of the position, but that doesn’t mean the actual QB’s available will be franchise caliber QB’. Either way betting that they can just pick up a franchise QB down the line is a risky path to choose, and it makes no sense if they see a franchise caliber QB at 3. If they see their guy, they will take him. And regardless of what anyone says they won’t be taking the QB at 3 if they don’t believe in the player.

 

[Wozzy]

That's a philosophy that can sometimes take decades to resolve. I don't want to be the next Chicago Bears.

I'd take Mayfield over McCarthy every single day and twice on Sunday.

Prepare to be stuck in the middle, no way to win in the playoffs but just good enough to not have high draft picks.

Don't be the Bears, draft well... pretty simple.

 

[XLIX]

Prepare to be stuck in the middle, no way to win in the playoffs but just good enough to not have high draft picks.

Don't be the Bears, draft well... pretty simple.

LOL! Yeah it's so simple that everyone is doing it.....

 

[1960Pats]

So glad you ain't spending our cap or making personal decisions a soon to be 36 year old QB coming off an injury no thanks.

Cousins is the best QB out there but if he isn't healthy of course it's a much different story. In any case I wouldn't want Mayfield anywhere near the Pats. He's a boneheaded decision waiting to happen. No matter who they have at QB they'll hopefully only need him while the new QB learns.

 

[1960Pats]

I watched Mayfield a lot last year. He's a good QB, getting better, and a good leader. A good QB is going to cost you between 30-40/year. You want good players, you have to PAY good players.

Rookie QBs are a crap shoot, even highly-drafted rookies.

I very much like the idea of not HAVING to take a QB at 3. Shiny toys. Mayfield is a seasoned vet - AVP knows him well, so I'll trust his judgment on this one, certainly. if the Pats nab Mayfield in FA, I'm not losing sleep over it.

And I reject outright this notion that "he's not going to get you to a Superbowl." Purdy got there. Goff almost got there.

Draft a rookie that you need to count on and you might be looking at shiny new QB toys in three years.
The scouts are all over the place with this year's crop of QBs - I read someone trashing Maye today. The only one I hear is consensus NFL starter is Williams, and he's got other problems (and almost certainly won't be there).

This class has fool's gold written all over it, I fear.

All draft picks are a crap shoot at all positions. The HOF is chock full of players who weren't the first pick at their position.

You're making me rethink my anti-Mayfield stance. I've seen some Carson Wentz in him but maybe I haven't seen enough of him lately.

There seems to be a misconception that the top QB that gets picked will be the top QB. It doesn't work out that way as much as fans think it does.

 

[Wax Frog]

Prepare to be stuck in the middle, no way to win in the playoffs but just good enough to not have high draft picks.

Don't be the Bears, draft well... pretty simple.

They'll be the Browns instead

 

[1960Pats]

They'll be the Browns instead

I'll take 11-6 and a ticket to the dance.

 

[Wozzy]

LOL! Yeah it's so simple that everyone is doing it.....

If we're comparing ourselves to bad organizations we've already lost the plot.

There's still people telling us Mac is the answer... don't be those people.

 

[Wozzy]

They'll be the Browns instead

Don't get me wrong, you can win with a great team and Baker. But just like everyone overrates QB's in relation to team, they overrate the need to pay the wrong ones out of desperation.

Take a QB in the first or second round, take 2-3 total in the draft, bring another 1-2 in as UDFA's... use the machine gun approach to get the position right... until you do.

 

[ScottishPatriots]

No to any quarterback that costs serious money and or draft capital, just draft a rookie and have a Flacco/Brissett/Tannehill type to take a beating for 6-7-8 games or until the rookie is ready.

I'm not paying Baker Mayfield 35m or giving up a pick for Fields now you've sunk valuable money and or assets into 2 quarterbacks when the team is massively lacking and in need of many positions being upgraded.

 

[XLIX]

If we're comparing ourselves to bad organizations we've already lost the plot.

We went 4-13 last year. That puts us a helluva lot closer to Carolina than Kansas City.

There's still people telling us Mac is the answer... don't be those people.

Don't worry about me saying Mac is the answer.... that very small window shut a couple years ago.....

 

[XLIX]

Take a QB in the first or second round, take 2-3 total in the draft, bring another 1-2 in as UDFA's... use the machine gun approach to get the position right... until you do.

I dunno.... I think shooting the fellas is a bit harsh.... well, except maybe Jones....

 

[Hammer of Thor]

The Patriots are still most likely to find their next quarterback with the No. 3 overall pick in the 2024 NFL Draft, but there are other ways to find their future starter, and the top impending free agents are two intriguing candidates in Baker Mayfield and Kirk Cousins.

Mayfield has supporters from within the Patriots’ organization, per sources, but there are some impediments to signing him. It’s not a surprise that Mayfield is liked by members of the staff. He was drafted by a front office that included current Patriots de facto general manager Eliot Wolf and coached by offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelt and quarterbacks coach T.C. McCartney with the Browns. Patriots senior personnel advisor Pat Stewart and senior offensive assistant Ben McAdoo spent time with Mayfield with the Panthers, as well.

Sources: Patriots like Baker Mayfield, haven’t shown interest in Kirk Cousins

How the Patriots feel about two impending free-agent quarterbacks.

www.bostonherald.com

 

[Love The Drake]

Sources: Patriots like Baker Mayfield, haven’t shown interest in Kirk Cousins

How the Patriots feel about two impending free-agent quarterbacks.

www.bostonherald.com

Liking him and paying him 45 mil a season are drastically different beasts.

 

[50-yard-line]

No to any quarterback that costs serious money and or draft capital, just draft a rookie and have a Flacco/Brissett/Tannehill type to take a beating for 6-7-8 games or until the rookie is ready.

I'm not paying Baker Mayfield 35m or giving up a pick for Fields now you've sunk valuable money and or assets into 2 quarterbacks when the team is massively lacking and in need of many positions being upgraded.

I'm quoting you, but not aiming this at anyone in particular...

If you go out and get Mayfield, you're doing so because AVP believes you can win with him, and probably because they really don't see anything better that will be around when it comes time to pick. It's a multi-year investment that settles your QB1 position for the foreseeable future.

Tannehill, Flacco, Wilson (when released), even Cousins would all serve a different, bridge function.
All I see here is "NO!" on pretty much every position. No on Jeudy and his $12 million guaranteed popped up in another thread. no on Ridley. No on Onwenu. No on Dugger.
If we're going to continue with the attitude that "too expensive" rules the day, we'll be forever talking about our mediocre roster, and forever, it seems, ignoring the huge increases that have happened in the cap.

So back to Mayfield...perhaps someone could make a case for Fields, but IF, again IF, the Pats don't see a franchise QB at 3, the idea of getting someone in here who can win (won a playoff game last year, right?) and building around that guy, right now, means...Mayfield.

We need upgrades. Full stop. Sure, the price of getting Mayfield is an asset - where else are you using it?

 

[Love The Drake]

I'm quoting you, but not aiming this at anyone in particular...

If you go out and get Mayfield, you're doing so because AVP believes you can win with him, and probably because they really don't see anything better that will be around when it comes time to pick. It's a multi-year investment that settles your QB1 position for the foreseeable future.

Tannehill, Flacco, Wilson (when released), even Cousins would all serve a different, bridge function.
All I see here is "NO!" on pretty much every position. No on Jeudy and his $12 million guaranteed popped up in another thread. no on Ridley. No on Onwenu. No on Dugger.
If we're going to continue with the attitude that "too expensive" rules the day, we'll be forever talking about our mediocre roster, and forever, it seems, ignoring the huge increases that have happened in the cap.

So back to Mayfield...perhaps someone could make a case for Fields, but IF, again IF, the Pats don't see a franchise QB at 3, the idea of getting someone in here who can win (won a playoff game last year, right?) and building around that guy, right now, means...Mayfield.

We need upgrades. Full stop. Sure, the price of getting Mayfield is an asset - where else are you using it?

Flacco and Maye or McCarthy.

 

[PatsFan2]

I'm quoting you, but not aiming this at anyone in particular...

If you go out and get Mayfield, you're doing so because AVP believes you can win with him, and probably because they really don't see anything better that will be around when it comes time to pick. It's a multi-year investment that settles your QB1 position for the foreseeable future.

Tannehill, Flacco, Wilson (when released), even Cousins would all serve a different, bridge function.
All I see here is "NO!" on pretty much every position. No on Jeudy and his $12 million guaranteed popped up in another thread. no on Ridley. No on Onwenu. No on Dugger.
If we're going to continue with the attitude that "too expensive" rules the day, we'll be forever talking about our mediocre roster, and forever, it seems, ignoring the huge increases that have happened in the cap.

So back to Mayfield...perhaps someone could make a case for Fields, but IF, again IF, the Pats don't see a franchise QB at 3, the idea of getting someone in here who can win (won a playoff game last year, right?) and building around that guy, right now, means...Mayfield.

We need upgrades. Full stop. Sure, the price of getting Mayfield is an asset - where else are you using it?

Also if we sign Mayfield: #3 will be up for a haul wouldn't be a bad move acquiring more Draft capital. We could definitely get one or two players from the Deep Offensive Tackle class plus future picks we could have Two Firsts in 2025.

 

[PatsFan2]

The New England Patriots decision on their 2024 roster spots for QB has received a deservedly large portion of the recent debate on this forum. I'm going to throw at a name that has been discussed by some, but for the most part has been under the radar: Baker Mayfield.

Here is the premise: the Pats have many roster spots in dire need of an upgrade. They also own highly coveted draft capital: the number three overall pick in the draft. So what if the team did not feel compelled to draft a QB at that spot, having taken care of that in free agency? That would give them the freedom to use that pick on another position (MHJ at WR; Alt at OT), or trade down and amass more draft capital (likely to include another first round pick in 2025 - plus early draft picks at OT and WR).

Here is a link from the Tampa area's premier Bucs-related website, Pewter Report.

SR's Fab 5: Baker Mayfield Could Have Many Suitors In Free Agency | Pewter Report

Bucs QB Baker Mayfield could have several suitors in free agency that could drive his price tag way up. Scott Reynolds names the possible teams.

www.pewterreport.com

The Bucs will most likely let quarterback Baker Mayfield test the free agent market to gauge his worth. That may not be what fans want to hear, but this has become a familiar practice deployed by general manager Jason Licht and assistant general manager Mike Greenberg.​

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The Bucs don’t want to risk overpaying players past their market value, but in Mayfield’s case, it could backfire next month.​

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Mayfield is coming off his first Pro Bowl season and a career year in which he threw for over 4,000 yards and 28 touchdowns. He should be one of the more sought-after quarterbacks in free agency this year. ...​

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But out of all these names, Cousins, Mayfield, Fields, Russell Wilson, and perhaps Tannehill will be the most sought after by teams looking for a starter. Mayfield, who turns 29 in April, might be the best free agent quarterback of the bunch.​

That all sounds good, until we get to the estimate of what Mayfield's price will be.

So Mayfield could be in real demand. I’m guessing Mayfield’s floor is $30 million per year. That’s $5 million more than Seattle’s Geno Smith got last year when the journeyman had a renaissance with the Seahawks, replacing Wilson and signing a three-year, $75 million deal.​

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If multiple teams emerge as suitors, it could really drive Mayfield’s price tag up, perhaps to $40 million per season, which is what New York Giants quarterback Daniel Jones makes. Mayfield is better than Jones, and is perhaps on par with Dak Prescott, who also makes $40 million per year.​

Ouch. With all the Pats needs, would that much money be worth it to a rebuilding team? Or do we have enough confidence with the defense that is already in place to go for it, and plow the vast majority of cap and draft capital into the offense?

The author lists seven teams that might be interested in Mayfield; #2 was the New England Patriots.

There has been speculation that the Patriots will draft a quarterback with the third overall pick, but chances are they’ll be drafting the third QB off the board when they do. ... Would the Patriots want LSU’s Jayden Daniels if he’s the next best available option?​

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New England is in a serious rebuild mode now that Bill Belichick has departed. The last thing the Patriots probably want to do is to hit the reset button and slow the process down with another rookie quarterback who will need time to develop.​

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New offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelt, who interviewed for the same post in Tampa Bay this offseason, was Mayfield’s offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach in Cleveland for a few years. So that connection could help generate some interest from Mayfield in New England. The Patriots also have the second-most salary cap space in the league with $69,527,006 $86,857,390, so they could make a serious financial run at Mayfield and perhaps overpay to get him.​

Your thoughts?

AVP seems like he can work with a decent/good QB which Mayfield is didn't like this at first but if we sign Mayfield we would be better at QB plus more Draff capital. We could be two years away with Draft capital coming our way...we also wouldn't be wasting a very good Defense.