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1.) John Gruden for Patriots O.C.?
2.) John Gruden for Chiefs H.C.?
Ok, to tie this into present/former Patriots and prevent it from getting moved....
1.) John Gruden for Patriots O.C.?
2.) John Gruden for Chiefs H.C.?
Stupid move at a stupid time. I wonder if they have somebody in mind. Wouldn't surprise me to see Gruden land another job right away.
Ok, to tie this into present/former Patriots and prevent it from getting moved....
1.) John Gruden for Patriots O.C.?
2.) John Gruden for Chiefs H.C.?
I forgot that the Chiefs could be a possibility. I wonder if Gruden and Pioli could work together?
As for Gruden becoming the Pats O.C. I think he'd be behind Shanahan in all honesty, but ahead of Martz....
Most people on this Bucs board sound happy.
Florio is speculating that Shanahan is a likely target - given the firing of the GM that seems very possible. His offence is a west coast system so there would be no huge change.
I don't rate Gruden very highly. He won with Dungy's players and rode Kiffen's defence for the last few years. He never developed a QB or a consistent offence. He'll want a HC job or at least a senior OC like the Cowboys (if Garret leaves). The Jets are a strong possibility - he has the personality for NY.
In a weird way all this craziness makes Herm Edwards safer. There have been so many coaches and assistents hired that if the Chiefs fire him, they will have a shallow pool to choose from that the new coach will have trouble getting assistents when he takes the job in February.
Broncos: Start season 8-5 (3 game lead, with 3 to go)
End Result: Miss playoffs (0-3 final 3 games)
Buccaneers: Start season 9-3
End Result: Miss playoffs (0-4 final four games)
Both have a combined 0 playoff wins in last 6 years.
Is it really necessary for NFL-N/ESPN/Boards to mourn as if these have been some unthinkable moves?
No playoff wins in last 6 years for either coach is worthy of the boot, regardless of your name value/past success.
I think we see that neither Gruden nor Shanahan should have final say over personnel.
You people are nuts, yes Gruden has a ring, from a Tony Dungy made team, Gruden has been living off 2002 and has done nothing since then including this year going from 9-3 to 9-7, losing the last 4 and in Week 17 all he had to do was beat the JV Raiders to make the playoffs. A well deserved firing and it's about time.
Lets recap Grudens team since 2002.
2003 - 7-9 3rd place in division
2004 - 5-11 last place in division
2005 - 11-5 lost in 1st round of playoffs
2006 - 4-12 last place in division
2007 - 9-7 lost in 1st round of playoffs
2008 - 9-7 lost last 4 games no playoffs
Grudens failure to draft a future star QB and manage the salary cap has doomed this franchise for years to come. Gruden as a Patriot OC? NO FRIGGIN WAY!