I'm sure I am to the simple-minded.
you decide if there was a distinction?
I asked what the distinction was. The only one that's been remotely able to bring that up to me so far has been BradyManny. The rest of you have made it personal because you haven't been able to find one.
you decide what the rules are in responding to your dumb questions? you decide everything apparently.
Let's remember here that I never started this. That was ausbacker...
I am of the firm belief that Bird, Magic and Jordan are all considerably better players than LeBron because they were all leaders of men. LeBron isn't a leader.
...to which I responded that he must have not seen the Finals where LeBron was CLEARLY a leader. After that, the we went down the path of what did Bird do differently than LeBron in any one of his Finals appearances to be more of a "leader of men"? I still haven't gotten a concrete answer on that.
you decide if somebody is objective or not?
Actually, that was you...
but as you acknowledge yourself bird was the superior player. the fact that you would even entertain this silly question just shows your total lack of objectivity when it comes to lebron james.
lol it never ends with you. you claiming to be objective or claiming somebody isn't objective does not make it so.
Stating that you are open to being convinced is the definition of being objective. So, convince me.
you realize that right? stop playing your games and answer my questions.
I literally answered all of your questions in my last post.
if you want a response to your moronic question i need to know the boundaries and what is to be considered.
I've already given you the boundaries. Your response was to compare Bird as a player. That wasn't my question. My question was how he was a better leader of men. I acknowledged that Bird has the upper hand as a player right now, but I also acknowledged that LeBron played all five positions in this playoff run and has often played multiple positions in his career. Can you tell me the last time Bird did that?
that is hardly a cop out.
That particular post was definitely a copout.
leaders of men are judged by there actions there choices and decisions on and off the court and in there personal lives.
In his personal life, LeBron has never been arrested nor has ever made the news for something like what Chad Johson just did.
On the court, he's been a multi-NBA MVP, led what would become one of the worst teams ever after he left to a Finals appearance against the greatest dynasty of the last decade, won the NBA Finals with multiple awe-inspiring performances, won the NBA MVP, and won a gold medal in the same year. By your criteria, LeBron is an excellent leader of men. Better start going by my criteria...
how the hell can there play in the games not be considered? and if that's the case then the competition level is fare game and should and will be considered.
You can consider it if you so wish, but you really don't have much of an argument. Again, I wasn't the one that made the original claim. I'm just responding to it.
you say it shouldn't i disagree. for the sake of time and the fatigue of my fingers from typing. i reject all your assumptions and all of your conclusions.
I assumed that would happen from the get-go.
i also reject the the entire premise of the question.
Then you also reject the original claim that, not only was Bird a better leader of men, but also that LeBron is not a leader of men.
now i will do what you do and just proclaim you wrong about everything. you have zero objectivity.
Ah, but yet I'm the one that is deciding whether or not others are objective. Nice complete contradiction. And I'm not proclaiming anybody wrong. The question was fair. Aside from what BradyManny just brought up, I have had anybody fairly respond to it, or least not a response that could be easily counter argued.
why? because i said so. see how easy that is. anybody can do that
Nice logic too.
If that's what reasonable debate and critical thinking skills are to you, then that seems like a personal issue.
now its time for you to appeal to the other posters for support
Wrong again. I've posted in this forum without any support from anybody in here since 2009.
to marginalize my posts giving you message board st cred. lmao
Remember when you accused me of going personal earlier in the thread? What happened with that?