so the forum has expert members that should be listened to before anyone else can post?
Hi strawman! Obviously that isn't what I said. You are better than this.
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Some think this forum is like a court room ...
They don't understand it's okay to throw an opinion out there.
Opinions are just that ... someone's point of view and it's okay to say them.
Maybe you should remember that yourself when you post your remarks, Icy.
But they didn't say WHEN the security system was broken. And the WHEN makes all the difference in the world.
If we are left to discuss only 100% verifiable facts then very few threads would exist in the forum or any forum for that matter. people should be free to air an opinion regardless if it is factual or not or somewhere in between ... we're not a court of law here are we?
The timing of when AH was with OL.
Whether AH was cooperating or not cooperating with police.
Whether AH was a suspect or not a suspect.
Whether AH was in a shooting incident with a Jets fan
Whether AH was in a night club incident in Providence
How much more do you need?
Typically, one uses facts to form an opinion. When the "facts" become contradicted or proven to be unreliable, one usually backs down from forming further opinions on those questionable facts. And one usually acknowledges the erroneous or unreliable statements. That's where so many people seem to fail. They are hell bent on keeping their opinion regardless of what information comes to light.
It's a discussion forum ... those exist to discuss ... as in opinion and fact.
so if someone is wrong so what ... does not make them an idiot.
bet there are people in this forum who are wrong at times and smarter than almost everyone here
... it's called being human Deus - we're all imperfect and there's nothing wrong with that.
Unless of course we really are a court of law .... :rolleyes2:
as I told you before ... I can dig up many of your posts where you were wrong.
what does that make you by your definition?
Investigation probably still working to establish exactly when it happened but, again, in context, and assuming that it actually was intentionally and physically damaged, it doesn't add up to a pretty picture.
Typically, one uses facts to form an opinion. When the "facts" become contradicted or proven to be unreliable, one usually backs down from forming further opinions on those questionable facts. And one usually acknowledges the erroneous or unreliable statements. That's where so many people seem to fail. They are hell bent on keeping their opinion regardless of what information comes to light.
Can you guys reset the most basic thing for me and tell me if this is correct ?
The body was found and a rental car in Hernandez' name was found at the scene.
Is that correct ?
If so it sounds like Lloyd went by himself and got killed.
But I also heard someone say 4 left in the car and 3 returned. But with all the false reports I can't keep track what's true and what isn't.
so the forum has expert members that should be listened to before anyone else can post?
It's already come out with that lovely Wes Welker anecdote that Hernandez get's frustrated easily by electronics he can't figure out how to use. What would have stopped him from getting upset and smashing it months ago and chose not to get it fixed?
The problem with everyone damning Hernandez for that is that we never heard about it after either of the searches on Tuesday. It was only after the search on Wednesday. Any video surveillance would have been something that they'd have asked for immediately in the first warrant, not Wednesday after they'd been their twice previously.
Clearly.
Sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it does.
Of course. What does this strawman argument have to do with the topic at hand?
And this strawman argument has absolutely nothing to do with the foolishness that's been on display in this thread.
Even in a court of law, it's understood that humans aren't perfect. Why are you putting forth all the straw men?
You keep saying that. I keep telling you to feel free to do so.
In this case, a man who's avoided saying really stupid things because of a reliance on conflicting, and sometimes incorrect, reports.
Well, the investigation into the timing will clear that up very easily - was it scheduled or ad hoc? Simple question, simple answer.
Could be, but could also be that they were called in to clean up other evidence, so hard to draw conclusions unless you're rooting for a particular conclusion.
Fail by physical damage to the hard drive? Right....
Neither side has enough information to prove anything.
That isn't what he said and you know it. Sorry, but you are borderline trolling with your comments.
It's a discussion forum ... those exist to discuss ... as in opinion and fact.
so if someone is wrong so what ... does not make them an idiot.
bet there are people in this forum who are wrong at times and smarter than almost everyone here
... it's called being human Deus - we're all imperfect and there's nothing wrong with that.
Unless of course we really are a court of law .... :rolleyes2:
as I told you before ... I can dig up many of your posts where you were wrong.
what does that make you by your definition?
for the record I say he is not guilty of anything other than ... shall I dare say .. being a bit irresponsible.