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Getting fired from the Jets is a check in the plus column in my book.
A far as offensive line coach Dave DeGuglielmo goes, my thoughts:
Knowing that at some point Dante Scarnecchia is going to retire (based on his age and presumed conversations he had with Belichick), wouldn't it have made more sense to have had somebody on staff with the idea of grooming him as the replacement over the last year or two? Not necessarily an assistant OL coach, but perhaps a TE coach (works in conjunction with the OL) and/or a defensive line coach ('self scouting' and developing a good knowledge of what to expect to from the opposition).
It seems like this would have been a superior plan than hiring somebody from the outside. Scarnecchia's retirement was not and should not have been a surprise; therefore a better transition plan should have been put into place.
In addition, with the change at the OL coaching position, then the Patriots should have waited a year to move Mankins. The proficiency of an offensive line is dependent on cohesiveness, and that only comes from working together. Way too many changes (coach, LG, C, RG) to expect high end productivity with this unit.
At most there should be only two changes (and preferably no more than one) in a single off-season; the Patriots are dealing with four.
A far as offensive line coach Dave DeGuglielmo goes, my thoughts:
Knowing that at some point Dante Scarnecchia is going to retire (based on his age and presumed conversations he had with Belichick), wouldn't it have made more sense to have had somebody on staff with the idea of grooming him as the replacement over the last year or two? Not necessarily an assistant OL coach, but perhaps a TE coach (works in conjunction with the OL) and/or a defensive line coach ('self scouting' and developing a good knowledge of what to expect to from the opposition).
It seems like this would have been a superior plan than hiring somebody from the outside. Scarnecchia's retirement was not and should not have been a surprise; therefore a better transition plan should have been put into place.
In addition, with the change at the OL coaching position, then the Patriots should have waited a year to move Mankins. The proficiency of an offensive line is dependent on cohesiveness, and that only comes from working together. Way too many changes (coach, LG, C, RG) to expect high end productivity with this unit.
At most there should be only two changes (and preferably no more than one) in a single off-season; the Patriots are dealing with four.
I think that may have been exactly what they were planning to do. Brian Daboll was looking like a candidate for that spot when he spent last season as a coaching assistant working with Scarnecchia and the OL. When TE coach George Godsey took the Houston QB coach job, there were two position coach openings and only one internal candidate.Knowing that at some point Dante Scarnecchia is going to retire (based on his age and presumed conversations he had with Belichick), wouldn't it have made more sense to have had somebody on staff with the idea of grooming him as the replacement over the last year or two? Not necessarily an assistant OL coach, but perhaps a TE coach (works in conjunction with the OL) and/or a defensive line coach ('self scouting' and developing a good knowledge of what to expect to from the opposition).
It seems like this would have been a superior plan than hiring somebody from the outside. Scarnecchia's retirement was not and should not have been a surprise; therefore a better transition plan should have been put into place.
A far as offensive line coach Dave DeGuglielmo goes, my thoughts:
Knowing that at some point Dante Scarnecchia is going to retire (based on his age and presumed conversations he had with Belichick), wouldn't it have made more sense to have had somebody on staff with the idea of grooming him as the replacement over the last year or two? Not necessarily an assistant OL coach, but perhaps a TE coach (works in conjunction with the OL) and/or a defensive line coach ('self scouting' and developing a good knowledge of what to expect to from the opposition).
It seems like this would have been a superior plan than hiring somebody from the outside. Scarnecchia's retirement was not and should not have been a surprise; therefore a better transition plan should have been put into place.
In addition, with the change at the OL coaching position, then the Patriots should have waited a year to move Mankins. The proficiency of an offensive line is dependent on cohesiveness, and that only comes from working together. Way too many changes (coach, LG, C, RG) to expect high end productivity with this unit.
At most there should be only two changes (and preferably no more than one) in a single off-season; the Patriots are dealing with four.
Belichick had Daboll and a top coaching resource working with Scar for a year. yes, he was a fall back as a choice for OL coach if Belichick didn't find someone acceptable.@Sciz @Mike the Brit
Excellent point about Daboll. Thanks for pointing that out; for whatever reason I had forgotten all about that when I responded.
Still, hypothetically speaking; if an agreement had already been made with Daboll to take over as the OL coach, then why not hire an external TE coach? Cold feet on Daboll taking over as coach of the OL? Decided continuity was more important (only one new position coach rather then two)?
Granted Daboll has never been an OL coach, but he has served as an offensive coordinator for four seasons.
We will probably never know the real reasons for this decision making (I'll have to assume that BB was really impressed with Guglielmo), but it just seems rather curious to me.
It is not strange that we don't understand Belichick's personnel choice for the coaching staff. I don't that were have ever have. What is strange is the idea that somehow we have poor coaches.
Posters here seem to think that we had little talent last year, and were extremely unlucky with regard to injuries.What so strange about that?
Except the pats aren't a rushing team and haven't been in quite awhileTop rushing offenses on the college level. 3rd in the NFL with the Jets. That's success.
Excellent post. So here is the best "homer" reply I can make.
The Pats DID have someone inside who was shadowing Scarnecchia. Brian Daboll spent last season specifically assisting with the offensive line. I'd guess that having him take over was already a strong possibility. That they didn't go with that suggests that BB had a very positive judgement about Guglielmo.
OK, on the other side ...
BB is a great football coach, but I'm not sure he's always been a great judge of people. That said, one of his amazing strengths is the ability to re-visit his decisions and draw consequences from his mistakes. If appointing Guglielmo was one of them, he won't let personal vanity get in the way of acknowledging it.
Whether it was I have absolutely no idea. But it's going to be an interesting next few weeks.
I think that may have been exactly what they were planning to do. Brian Daboll was looking like a candidate for that spot when he spent last season as a coaching assistant working with Scarnecchia and the OL. When TE coach George Godsey took the Houston QB coach job, there were two position coach openings and only one internal candidate.