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Sudfeld has great potential and looked like a stud in preseason.

Regular season he's turned the ball over 3 times now (Fumble, Tipped pass, Dropping an Onside Kick).

I hope it's just a matter of settling in, gaining confidence, and getting comfortable.

Sudfeld can't block, and he's not catching the ball. If he doesn't get his head out of his ass, he'll be on the unemployment line.
 
Sudfeld can't block, and he's not catching the ball. If he doesn't get his head out of his ass, he'll be on the unemployment line.

He may be headed to the PS with forthcoming roster moves
 
Most importantly, the trust is ever progressing between Brady and KT. I am thrilled that he has been forced to adapt to new, young, inexperienced receivers. Especially since we havent lost.

I also happy to see that they players are learning from their mistakes. Against the Jets when KT made, what looked like a TD, he let the ball hit the ground. This time, he made sure to turn is body just enough so the ball would not touch the ground. Heads up play that I really think is a good sign.
 
1.) Stumbled. Fine, his fault.

2.) Brady's fault throwing when he was double covered. Was supposed to go to Dobson anywa.

3.) That was a very tough bounce.

Tough bounces happen to you when you don't act decisively. If he agressively goes and gets that ball, he swallows that hop up 9 out of 10 times. If he cooly steps back and waits for the ball, it's a room service hop. It wouldn't have hurt if Nink had made the block in front of him, but Sudfeld needs to step-up and make a play there. He may have missed his chance to make a play. If the Pats need to manage injuries to Dennard, Dobson, and Bolden, and Gronk comes back, he'll be cut and either on his way toward the PS or out of town, if somebody else wants him.

The bad spot on the ball where the ref w/o the sideline view took the ball and moved it back 2 feet was egregious. Could have cost us the game. Glad we overcame. Like BB says, worry about what you can control, not what you can't.

This happens more often than it should. One guy gets in there and spots the ball quickly, rather than deferring to the ref who saw the play, and then they hustle to get things moving, rather than taking the second it takes to get it right. I think it's a major failing by the NFL to not have exceedingly clear operating procedures for these situations and is reflective of the semi-professional nature of the NFL refereeing profession. Among all sports, NFL teams are the height of professionalism, organization, and profitability, yet the executive end of the NFL has it's head firmly planted up its rear end.

All game long BB was coaching up the defense. Dante was fine tuning the OL and McDaniels was doing his thing with Brady. This is what a professional NFL sideline looks like. The play calling was very good I might add. Theres no shame in running the ball.

Dante had a few sessions with the TEs and Develin, too. I saw a couple effective blocks out of Mulligan and Hooman. Given the way they ran the ball, I expect a review of the film will show strong games by them, too. I wouldn't rule out Develin having blockd someone either. If so, I credit Dante and not the player. ;)

I also happy to see that they players are learning from their mistakes. Against the Jets when KT made, what looked like a TD, he let the ball hit the ground. This time, he made sure to turn is body just enough so the ball would not touch the ground. Heads up play that I really think is a good sign.

Agreed. I was also impressed with how glued to his hands the ball remained after he dropped himself on his elbow like that. KT came to play last night.
 
The refs were indeed terrible but I thought one of the very worst calls was the personal foul on the KT third and long catch. In addition to the catch we were gifted 15 extra yards which I believe lead to the Blount TD.

The replay clearly showed the tackler leading with a forearm to the head. Not sure why you'd have a problem with that call...
 
Some thoughts:

QB
Brady clearly learned from watching the tape of himself *****ing too much at the Jets game. When a rookie drops a pass or runs the wrong route, he mentally moves on to the next play. That seems to be helping him out. This was his best game of the year.

RB
Blount is clearly a weapon. You just don't see that breakaway coming from the big guy, but he is capable of it. Only downside is an inability to get anyone into any rhythm when each RB is getting 10 touches. Ridley seemed to run face-forward a lot more this game - wasn't turning his back to the pile, was leaning forward on contact.

WR
We are seeing development. Tremendous improvement from Game One to Game Four. If we get half this much development over the course of the rest of the year, we will enter the winter with more depth at WR than anytime in the past decade - not more talent, but more depth. In Game One, the rookies just seemed unable to understand what to do on the tree. Unsurprisingly little improvement on the short week. But better last week, and even better this week. Thompkins and Dobson are going to drop more passes than we like, but they are also getting a little more separation than Brady had been seeing. Boyce showed good recognition and good hands coming back for the ball when Brady was under pressure, and made a nice first down. Of course Atlanta was missing their #1 corner and DE.

TE
Even when Gronkowski comes back, this team is going to need a second TE. Clearly they weren't satisfied with Fells or Ballard. Hoomanawanui is limited athletically. We are going to have to hope Sudfeld develops as the rookie WR's are. The offense has been built on a number of two-TE formations, with two potential receivers. Sudfeld has been a disappointment, but he is an undrafted rookie with very limited college exposure - even over six years. I guess the other option is two slot receivers, with Edelman taking more of a move-TE role. He's tough enough to block in space.

OL
Nice job pulling and blocking by Connolly. Wendell has been a problem. Team probably needs to draft a Day Two center next year. Cannon has been pretty versatile, playing LT, RT, and guard. Good thing Solder wasn't badly hurt - he also had a very nice night. Vollmer played pretty well on a bad foot. How about 10 straight runs to beat on the defense - you can only do that if you are consistently getting four or five yards a rush. That then led to the most effective play-action we've seen in a long time - Brady was able to play-action all through the second half and look up at two people open as all the linebackers and safeties stepped forward - including a touchdown to Mulligan (who?!) on third-and-goal immediately after those 10 rushes. That 10-rush drive really impacted the entire game.

DL
Losing Wilfork for the season is tough. Saw a stat that said the Pats average under 4 yards a rush with Wilfork and 5 yards without him. That said, if they are running on us, at least they're not passing on us.

The Jones/Buchanan formation seems to be working. Earlier I was very concerned that there is no pass rushing specialist on the bench, like TBC or Mark Anderson in the past. Buchanan has provided some spark for a seventh round rookie.

In general, still not much pressure. Not much improvement from last year. We argued well, they were trying to contain EJ Manuel/Geno Smith in the first couple games. Not sure they were trying to force Matt Ryan to beat them with his arm because they were more concerned with him beating them with his feet.

LB
Loved the ability to adjust over the game. Last year we really saw very little defensive or offensive adjustment over the game. It had been such a hallmark of a Belichick-coached team: the second half demostrated an approach to counter the strategy of the other team. They clearly were focused on stopping Jones and Roddy White from killing them, but then Gonzalez was a problem. They vice on Gonzalez was reminiscent of the defense on Marshall Faulk in the Rams Super Bowl. I think Gonzalez had 9 receptions in the first half and 3 in the second.

That said, the LB/Safeties still really struggle defending the pass. Spikes, Hightower, and Mayo are all ILB's, good tacklers, but limited rushers and limited in coverage. When Jamie Collins played, I saw him trailing the receiver as much as Hightower was. I'm pretty lukewarm on Hightower.

Secondary
Best corner rotation since Law/Poole/Samuel in 2004, and more straight man coverage than anytime over the past 10 years. Talib might be playing the best corner in the league right now. We just don't see receivers with five yards of space in a zone defense like we're used to. The catches being made are contested. Dennard has really improved as well, and plays above his size. Both guys are really sticking with their guys. Hope Dennard wasn't badly injured - if he is out and Arrington is injured and Cole is gone, uh oh.

Special teams
Maybe Spikes should be training with Gostkowski - I'll have what he's having, to paraphrase the line from When Harry Met Sally. Flawless special teams. Missing Slater will hurt less if they only punt once or twice a game as well.

Officiating
Yeah, it was bad. Move the ball back, huh, you're trying to get me upset. Turn off the instant replay, really? OK, wish you didn't do that. But I'll always love Coleman, no matter what he does now.

That said, good thing that instant replay broke, or the Pats would have lost that challenge on the catch/fumble.

Injuries
Bad game for injuries. Worst case, Wilfork for the season; Dennard out; Dobson out. If Amendola & Gronk come back, that could even things out. Probably need to scour the D-tackle practice squads.
 
Just started rewatching the game...

On the first Patriots possession, maybe the second or third Patriots snap of the game, Brady draws the defense offsides...IN THEIR OWN STADIUM! LOL! I had to double check to make sure they were in fact playing in Atlanta.
 
A win is a win but what about Sudfeld he did nothing all game and his time finally comes then he can't hold onto an onside kick he need to wake up.Do you thing we should release him? Right now he is just takeing up space.
 
Sudfeld has great potential and looked like a stud in preseason.

Regular season he's turned the ball over 3 times now (Fumble, Tipped pass, Dropping an Onside Kick).

I hope it's just a matter of settling in, gaining confidence, and getting comfortable.
Zach Dudfeld
 
He may be headed to the PS with forthcoming roster moves

A win is a win but what about Sudfeld he did nothing all game and his time finally comes then he can't hold onto an onside kick he need to wake up.Do you thing we should release him? Right now he is just takeing up space.

I'm hoping that PWP's thoughts come true and he heads to the PS. He can learn a season under his belt, add some bulk to that frame, and hopefully improve by next year.

As much as I think he's looked like crap, it'll be up to Belichick to decide whether or not he's worth pursuing for the future, and on the PS he won't be taking up any space.

It's possible that he'll be the odd man out with Gronkowski's return--and that doesn't say much about the state of our TE's at the moment when Hooman and Mulligan look "good" compared to your play.
 
A win is a win but what about Sudfeld he did nothing all game and his time finally comes then he can't hold onto an onside kick he need to wake up.Do you thing we should release him? Right now he is just takeing up space.

Well, he'd have a better chance of making it to the PS than a few weeks ago, but I think they keep him on the 53 a while longer just in case.
 
Well, he'd have a better chance of making it to the PS than a few weeks ago, but I think they keep him on the 53 a while longer just in case.

The lack of worry that someone would claim him is only dwarfed by the lack of worry that we would even send him to the practice squad.
 
Re: Zach Sudfeld ..

1.) Stumbled. Fine, his fault.

2.) Brady's fault throwing when he was double covered. Was supposed to go to Dobson anywa.

3.) That was a very tough bounce.

That's how I saw it.
 
Well, he'd have a better chance of making it to the PS than a few weeks ago, but I think they keep him on the 53 a while longer just in case.

But he is just takeing up a spot on the roster untill he is put on the PS. In the heat of the moment is he the guy you want the game to come down to?
 
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