Predictions for Bucs record and Brady's stats 2022

[crawhammer]

I thought he was the GOAT - yet he is responsible for 10 turnovers in all of his super bowls.

9 turnovers, not 10, exaggerating isn't helping your point anyway. 6 of the turnovers came in wins in which Brady led a game-winning drive, so again, no one cares about them. Literally no one actually blames Brady for the SB 52 loss either. Belichick took a monumental beating from Doug Pederson in the coaching department.

Belichick was looking pretty good 2001-2004 then his roster construction methods and poor drafts started getting in the way. There were years of mediocre to worse Patriots defenses (2010-2013, 2017). Brady gets more credit than Belichick certainly for the SB 49 and 51 championships. Belichick finally had another moment in SB 53 but looking back on that game now it may have been more about Goff's incompetence.

Who knows what Belichick is thinking this season with these clowns (Patricia and Judge) running the offense and his sons running the defense. He's really put together the most self-serving staff in the NFL. I suspect it may blow up in his face.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

9 turnovers, not 10, exaggerating isn't helping your point anyway. 6 of the turnovers came in wins in which Brady led a game-winning drive, so again, no one cares about them. Literally no one actually blames Brady for the SB 52 loss either. Belichick took a monumental beating from Doug Pederson in the coaching department.

Belichick was looking pretty good 2001-2004 then his roster construction methods and poor drafts started getting in the way. There were years of mediocre to worse Patriots defenses (2010-2013, 2017). Brady gets more credit than Belichick certainly for the SB 49 and 51 championships. Belichick finally had another moment in SB 53 but looking back on that game now it may have been more about Goff's incompetence.

Who knows what Belichick is thinking this season with these clowns (Patricia and Judge) running the offense and his sons running the defense. He's really put together the most self-serving staff in the NFL. I suspect it may blow up in his face.

Wrong, as usual.

6 INTs, 3 fumbles, 1 intentional grounding penalty in the end zone which is a turnover. So Brady is good for 1 turnover per Super Bowl on average.

 

[crawhammer]

Wrong, as usual.

6 INTs, 3 fumbles, 1 intentional grounding penalty in the end zone which is a turnover. So Brady is good for 1 turnover per Super Bowl on average.

No nitwit it's not a turnover for Brady. Intentional grounding which is an incompletion and a penalty on Brady. There's no turnover attributed to Brady on that play. Pull your head out of your *ss.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

No nitwit it's not a turnover for Brady. Intentional grounding which is an incompletion and a penalty on Brady. There's no turnover attributed to Brady on that play. Pull your head out of your *ss.

It resulted in a change of possession - the Pats were forced to punt. In effect it's worse than a turnover. He gave up 2 points to the Giants, who then scored another 7 points after the punt.

 

[Satchboogie3]

Wrong, as usual.

6 INTs, 3 fumbles, 1 intentional grounding penalty in the end zone which is a turnover. So Brady is good for 1 turnover per Super Bowl on average.

1 TO per SB appears is actually damn f*cking good. Mahomes has 5 TO in 2 superbowls, Peyton had 8 in 4 superbowls, Rodgers only had the 1 superbowl appearance, but he's had 7 turnovers in 4 NFC championship games. Even Montana, the outlier with 4 turnover-less superbowls, had 7 turnovers 7 conference championships (which everyone knew was the real Superbowl then, the AFC was a joke).

 

[Pats1971]

It resulted in a change of possession - the Pats were forced to punt. In effect it's worse than a turnover. He gave up 2 points to the Giants, who then scored another 7 points after the punt.

You think intentional grounding is a turnover? Dude stop talking and go figure out why your rams suck now.

 

[Pats1971]

1 TO per SB appears is actually damn f*cking good. Mahomes has 5 TO in 2 superbowls, Peyton had 8 in 4 superbowls, Rodgers only had the 1 superbowl appearance, but he's had 7 turnovers in 4 NFC championship games. Even Montana, the outlier with 4 turnover-less superbowls, had 7 turnovers 7 conference championships (which everyone knew was the real Superbowl then, the AFC was a joke).

You are trying to speak logic to a troll. He only understands dog commands like sit and go outside

 

[Pats1971]

It resulted in a change of possession - the Pats were forced to punt. In effect it's worse than a turnover. He gave up 2 points to the Giants, who then scored another 7 points after the punt.

I like how it was he that did it...lol bad blocking and the fact that they called grounding on a pass that was too far down the field. lol I have not seen that called since.

 

[XLIX]

1 TO per SB appears is actually damn f*cking good. Mahomes has 5 TO in 2 superbowls, Peyton had 8 in 4 superbowls, Rodgers only had the 1 superbowl appearance, but he's had 7 turnovers in 4 NFC championship games. Even Montana, the outlier with 4 turnover-less superbowls, had 7 turnovers 7 conference championships (which everyone knew was the real Superbowl then, the AFC was a joke).

You think intentional grounding is a turnover? Dude stop talking and go figure out why your rams suck now.

He's in my ignore file, but there can only be one person on this board so stupid as to think intentional grounding is a turnover.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

You think intentional grounding is a turnover? Dude stop talking and go figure out why your rams suck now.

You forgot one thing dipwad - it was intentional grounding in the END ZONE. Which means it results in a forced punt + 2 point safety. So in effect it's WORSE than any turnover. There, you happy?

 

[XLIX]

Most of the Belichick krishnas are in my ignore file, but it is obvious they are quite salty over the fact that yesterday the Bucs looked like one of the best coached, most well prepared teams in the League, and the Patriots were stumbling and bumbling around, completely unprepared, missing assignments, and dealing with a general clusterf*ck of game preparation.

It is amazing how much smarter coaches look when Tom Brady is on the team.

 

[Pats1971]

You forgot one thing dipwad - it was intentional grounding in the END ZONE. Which means it results in a forced punt + 2 point safety. So in effect it's WORSE than any turnover. There, you happy?

It was bad blocking and a bad call that has not been called since. Dont you have enough to worry about than about a QB that made this team good for 20 years?

 

[SHOWTIME15]

It was bad blocking and a bad call that has not been called since. Dont you have enough to worry about than about a QB that made this team good for 20 years?

Yep, typical Timmyite - blame everyone else. And the call was textbook grounding.

 

[sb1]

1 intentional grounding penalty in the end zone which is a turnover

Not according to the NFL rulebook. A safety is not a turnover.

Forget all that noise. Bottom line- for the second straight Super Bowl Bill’s defense had a chance to win a championship needing just one stop where Brady put them in the lead late… and for the second straight Super Bowl Bill’s defense didn’t get it done. Bottom line. That’s the only takeaway. Nothing else.

Eli is going to the Hall of fame because of Bill’s defense. Maybe he’ll give Bill a shoutout?

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Not according to the NFL rulebook. A safety is not a turnover.

Forget all that noise. Bottom line- for the second straight Super Bowl Bill’s defense had a chance to win a championship needing just one stop where Brady put them in the lead late… and for the second straight Super Bowl Bill’s defense didn’t get it done. Bottom line. That’s the only takeaway. Nothing else.

Eli is going to the Hall of fame because of Bill’s defense. Maybe he’ll give Bill a shoutout?

You're a fool if you keep blaming Bill's defense on two of the most miraculous plays in NFL history...

And your takeaways are dumb...

Eli doesn't troll Bill but he always trolls Tom (as does Peyton who owns him when it counts the most). Seems like the "GOAT" has a lot of kryptonites. Can't think of who MJ's kryptonite was. And Montana had only one kryptonite (the Giants).

 

[sb1]

You're a fool if you keep blaming Bill's defense on two of the most miraculous plays in NFL history...

They had a chance to win a championship with Brady giving them the lead late. Twice. And they failed both times. Against Eli Manning a career .500 QB. Who else should be blamed? That's what people remember most not Brady getting flagged for intentional grounding.

And your takeaways are dumb...

Eli doesn't troll Bill but he always trolls Tom (as does Peyton who owns him when it counts the most). Seems like the "GOAT" has a lot of kryptonites. Can't think of who MJ's kryptonite was. And Montana had only one kryptonite (the Giants).

Bill winless vs Tom head to head
Bill back to a sub .500 record as Pats HC without Tom
Tom's team is contending for another SB and will likely win it if they stay healthy. Bill's team seems to have a serious coaching and talent problem right now and seems that some in the locker room are not happy.

Seems like Bill has only one kryptonite himself and it's your favorite QB.

As for Eli and Tom it's all in fun and Tom knows that. I'm sure Peyton isn't offended either when Brady trolls him and vice versa.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

They had a chance to win a championship with Brady giving them the lead late. Twice. And they failed both times. Against Eli Manning a career .500 QB. Who else should be blamed? That's what people remember most not Brady getting flagged for intentional grounding.

Regardless, the intentional grounding penalty was a 9 point swing in favor of the Giants. In a close game those points were the difference. And Brady most certainly did NOT give the Pats a lead late in SB 46 - in fact the Pats didn't score a single point after the first drive of the second half. That's not giving them a "late lead."

Are you next going to blame John Madden's defense for Franco Harris' immaculate reception? No one blames the Raiders defense for that. What most people remember about SB 42 and 46 are the two miracle plays. The only person on this board who repeatedly blames Belichick for that is you.

Bill winless vs Tom head to head

Who cares. Tom is 0-2 vs Eli in the Super Bowl, 0-3 vs Peyton in AFCCGs, 0-3 vs Von Miller in the playoffs, etc.

Seems like Bill has only one kryptonite himself and it's your favorite QB.

1 win doesn't make someone a kryptonite. I guess we can say Nick Foles is Brady's kryptonite as he is 2-0.

As for Eli and Tom it's all in fun and Tom knows that. I'm sure Peyton isn't offended either when Brady trolls him and vice versa.

THey have bragging rights over Timmy for eternity.

 

[Guts]

Seriously where did this Timmy nickname come from?

 

[sb1]

Regardless, the intentional grounding penalty was a 9 point swing in favor of the Giants. In a close game those points were the difference. And Brady most certainly did NOT give the Pats a lead late in SB 46 - in fact the Pats didn't score a single point after the first drive of the second half. That's not giving them a "late lead."

They had the lead late. Both times. The defense failed to get a stop. Both times. The losses were on them not Brady.

Are you next going to blame John Madden's defense for Franco Harris' immaculate reception?

Now that was a miracle play.

There was nothing miraculous about Bill's defense giving up the lead to lose a Super Bowl. Twice.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

They had the lead late. Both times. The defense failed to get a stop. Both times. The losses were on them not Brady.

Wouldn't have mattered if the greatest offense in NFL history at the time (38 PPG) got more points in quarters 1-3. It's a 60 minute game, right?

Now that was a miracle play.

There was nothing miraculous about Bill's defense giving up the lead to lose a Super Bowl. Twice.

You're a fool if you don't think that the helmet catch and Manningham catch weren't miracles. Shall we take this discussion to the main board?