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Yeah. You have a Qb who goes 5-11 and then 0-2 he gets replaced by a Qb who goes 11-3 and wins the superbowl. How very genius to go with that guy. By 2000 Bledsoe was flat out bad, Brady won games, this was not the amazing decision that it is trumped up to be. I do agree though on coaches, a coach is a genius or an idiot based on the players executing. Its really that simple. Seattle superbowl. Coach called a moron for passing, had that been a td, he would have been a genius who outsmarted Bill, but since it was picked, he is an idiot.
Great teams are almost always built by great coaching staffs, bad coaching staffs have trouble developing great players and are really good at ruining great prospects.
Brady won a lot of games with bad defenses, the problem is, no matter how good the D is, they couldnt win without him. Stop with the drafted and developed crap. BB drafted about 12 Qb's over the years, how many turned out to be Brady? This notion that BB who is a defensive minded coach created a Brady out of thin air but somehow could not do that with any other Qb he ever drafted is stupid. Basically Bill really had no intentions of drafting brady and was basically talked into it by **** Rehbein. He then had no intentions of ever starting him until he had to, then oh look , the team is winning, so you think Bill somehow developed brady in a year, then his master plan was to have Bledsoe get hurt after an 0-2 start and then throw in his creation? Brady was Brady and that is why they became what they did. Bill had no earthly idea what Brady was or he would have drafted him a lot sooner than a late 6th rounder because his assitant wouldnt shut up about him.
I didn’t say “win games,” I said Brady couldn’t “win rings” without superior defenses and teams around him. And Brady had much better teams around him more consistently for twenty years than his QB peers did by far.
You realize there are stats out there that makes this statement, utter nonsense, right?
No, Brady made it easier to not over pay for all pros around him and they could still win. Thats why it stopped working when he left. The pats with Brady beat a ton of teams with all pro's playing and great defenses, for a lot of years. There is zero way they could build any defense unless they were putting cheap scrap heap guys around Brady and saying make it work. problem is, you have to have a Qb to make that work. The pats didnt win superbowls because they had a great defense, they won because Brady made amazing plays that others dont. Good defenses lose every year. If you have a Qb that you have to put high priced players around them or hey cant win, then you are not building a defense. If you need a Qb that keeps the defense off the field with long drives, and without turning the ball over, he is the defenses best friend. Winning because of defense is what Peyton did in his two superbowl wins, and what Mahomes did last year. Brady was the constant for 20 years, all other players came and went.
he knows. After the last 3 years the notion of defense and Bill carried Brady seems comical.
It wasn't Brady who defended "the greatest show on turf" or those Peyton Manning Colt's offenses back in the early 2000's. Tom needed his defense and rushing attack (linemen) to save his azz in 2016 versus the Texans otherwise he has one less ring on his finger. He also wasn't out there making tackles against the Rams in 2018 when the defense had them to a historically low Super Bowl scoring and offensive output. It's just dumb.
Because I never said that, or even implied it.
You are using 1 defensive stat. lol Peyton manning in the 2006 superbowl run, had 3 td's and 7 ints....they won the superbowl. Which pats team would have done that? In 2015. Peyton coming off a 9 td 17 int season won the superbowl, his stats in superbowl 13-23 141 yards 0 td's 2 turnovers. Last year mahomes won despite scoring 1 td in regulation and that was only because a ball bounced off a guys foot. You are using 1 single defensive stat to make up an entire entity. Did it matter in 2003 against carolina that they were number 1 in points allowed when carolina toasted them on the field for 29 points and delhomme looked like Joe Montana? It did not. Did it matter in 2014 when the pats were top 10 when Baltimore went up 14 points twice? It did not. Did it matter in 2017 when the pats were 5th in points allowed and the eagles torched them all day? It did not. Rodgers lost a playoff game in which his defense got him 5 turnovers....why? His defense was ranked average 14 so how could that happen? 5 turnovers they forced he lost. Rodgers lost a playoff game when his defense didnt allow an offensive td....how?Unfortunately for you, stats aren't your friend...
and yet the team didnt win before him or after he left? How come? What happened? Good defense, same coach, why did the pats start losing? Why did a Bucs team who had not won a playoff game in 18 years suddenly win a superbowl and go to a NFC title game in back to back years?
Points is the most important stat in football.
Yes there are 3 phases and Tom could win if one of those phases was not doing well, but as we have seen, they cant win if the Tom Phase leaves no matter how good the other two phases do. When you are losing games 6-0 and 10-6. Why? Bill was coach, so why?
Is it...So...if an offense controls the ball and keeps the ball away from the other team and does not turn it over and has long time consuming drives and controls the clock....will that keep the points down? Why did tampa bay go from 27th in points allowed to 7th when Brady became Qb? Same defense...Why? Its funny you say that points is most important when the Brady lead patriots had teh highest average scoring total in the league for the two decades he was there. Do those points not count? Yo uare screaming team game but forget that a Qb like Brady makes a defenses job a hell of a lot easier, and that when Brady played somehow the defenses didnt give up as many points. Weird huh. Bill builds good defense, but for some reason they didnt work for wins anymore after brady. Brady didnt tackle anyone, so why did the winning stop? Brady was the most important player on the football field for 19 years in a pats uniform. Thats it, this is not opinion, this is proven. Belichick would tell you the same if you held a gun to his head. He knows what he had and he knows what happened when he didnt have it anymore.
You mean the two years before Tom became starter, what about 2002? Tom was a year removed from winning a ring in 2001 and presumably better than the year prior... they went 9-7, was Tom's QB magic not working that year?
Tampa's defense the year before Brady arrived (2018) was ranked 18th in points per drive, better than their 29th ranked defense from the year before that when Arians first arrived. They were also the #1 ranked run defense in 2019, they also had rookie CB's and safeties moving into starting positions... in short, the defense starting improving steadily the moment Arians took over.
When you literally have to lie about what I said... you have nothing to stand on.
False, brady got to tampa in 2020, in 2019 the year before Brady got there, they gave up 449 points, the only teams worse was Giants, Panthers and Miami, the next year with the same defense they were 8th in points allowed. Now....why? You said defenses giving up points was the most important to say if a defense was good or not. Were they one of the worst defenses in the NFl and then suddenly they were top 10? According to you that is the case and had nothing to do with going from Winston to brady, now tell me again why points allowed is the most important stat to say if a defense is good or not. A great Qb who takes care of the ball and has long drives and scores and puts pressure on the other team absolutely keeps points down. You gave all credit to points allowed to the defense, but I just showed you how Brady can influence that with actual proof.
