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What did you think of the draft overall, Mayo ?Some miscellaneous responses and thoughts:
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I would love to see a 5-2 "base" with a DL such as the following:
LDE Ninkovich/Hightower - 3/5-tech Kelly/Armstead - NT Wilfork/Siliga - 3T Easley/Chr. Jones - RDE Cha. Jones/Buchanan
In "sub" (70% of the time), either the NT, 3/5 tech or LDE would come off the field, depending on the specific opponent and scheme, morphing into a 4-2-5 (over or under, depending on who drops out) / 3-3-5 (with someone standing up) / 5-1-5 (with someone moving up on the line) / 4-1-6 (with a LB playing more of a hybrid LB/S role, or with a 6th DB playing a hybrid role).
- "Base DE's" who have the strength and power to anchor but also the athleticism and flexibility to stand up at times and play different roles. Shilique Calhoun (6'4" 250#), Dante Fowler (6'3" 266#, has played LB and all over the DL), and Bronson Kaufusi (6'6" 270#; moving from DE to OLB this year) all fall into those role. Cedric Reed (6'5" 258#), Marcus Golden (6'3" 260#) and Trey Flowers (6'3" 263#) could possibly also fit in here.
- "Edge rushers", who are mainly attacking players (pass rushers), whether as DEs or OLBs. Randy Gregory (more like Anthony Barr than Chandler Jones, IMO), Vic Beasley, Noah Spence I don't see this group as being as interesting to me as the other two groups, but that's JMO.
As far as LB/S space players, I should have included Landon Collins in my list. Josh Harvey-Clemons has transferred to Louisville and will sit out 2014 so I don't expect him to come out until 2016; Derrick Moncrief (who I think will be a big time player) is a JUCO transfer and also unlikely to come out until 2016, and Myles Jack is a true sophomore and not draft eligible. But between Landon Collins, Cody Prewitt, Justin Garrett, Shaq Thompson, Ronald Martin and Derrick Malone I think there is going to be a pretty deep group for 2015.
There's plenty of time to see how the 2014 defense pans out and what the needs are for 2015, but there is a ton of exciting talent coming down the pipeline.
No it doesn't, a 5-2-4 base is near perfect for a team going 3 WR, you have 3 corners and a single high safety and the OL are forced to match up one on one with the pass rush.The spread offense makes the 5-2 a dinosaur.
No it doesn't, a 5-2-4 base is near perfect for a team going 3 WR, you have 3 corners and a single high safety and the OL are forced to match up one on one with the pass rush.
Let's use Denver as an example like you did:
D. Thomas: Browner (he hates being hit and loses interest, Browner is perfect for that)
Sanders: Revis
Welker: Dennard
J. Thomas: Collins/McCourty
Ball: Collins/McCourty
Press man to ruin the timing routes and the 5 DL force the OL to match up 1 on one with Easley, Chandler Jones and Kelly.
No it doesn't, a 5-2-4 base is near perfect for a team going 3 WR, you have 3 corners and a single high safety and the OL are forced to match up one on one with the pass rush.
Let's use Denver as an example like you did:
D. Thomas: Browner (he hates being hit and loses interest, Browner is perfect for that)
Sanders: Revis
Welker: Dennard
J. Thomas: Collins/McCourty
Ball: Collins/McCourty
Press man to ruin the timing routes and the 5 DL force the OL to match up 1 on one with Easley, Chandler Jones and Kelly.
You're covering 5 guys one on one with no help. Yeah, that'll work. Amazing some NFL teams haven't thought of it.
Seattle did it a lot last year, they even used a 6 man defensive line at times.
If you have the players talented enough to match up one on one in coverage, why not do it? One team was bold enough and they had a dominant defense in a league striving for passing superiority.
Mayo could cover Ball though if you match it up vs Denver leaving McCourty covering as a single high Safety, which works better.
They did not play 5 DL at the same time. They may have blitzed a lb. But, I am calling horsebleep until you show me any NFL team that played 5 DL outside of goal-line or maybe a short-yardage play. I'm not talking about lining Bobby Wagner up outside your de. But, a regular DL lining up and playing it that way.
Don't make it seem like that's the reason Seattle's defense works. They have great coverage ability. Bobby Wagner runs about a 4.45 forty. NFL teams are trying to get faster and more coverage ability. The 4-2-5 is the base defense against good qb's. With a couple of exceptions. We don't have the speed at lb to do that. You intentionally make your defense slower by playing 5 DL, meanwhile 32 NFL teams are looking for ways to get faster puh-leez. If your olb's can run, the 4-3 will still work. Mayo and Hightower just do not play well enough in space for it to work for the Pats. Replace Hightower with Levonte David, maybe.
To give our nickel package a lot of flexibility, I'd like to see Hightower, ?LDT maybe Armstead, Easley and Chandler Jones on the DL. Hightower at Ninko's spot gives you the ability to rush him, play him inside with Mayo and move Jamie Collins around.
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The spread offense makes the 5-2 a dinosaur.
I would love to see a 5-2 "base" with a DL such as the following:
LDE Ninkovich/Hightower - 3/5-tech Kelly/Armstead - NT Wilfork/Siliga - 3T Easley/Chr. Jones - RDE Cha. Jones/Buchanan
I don't have a problem with taking a lb and moving him down to the line and blitzing him. He's still a lb lined up as a de. He can move back to lb if the defense calls an audible. I do not want 5 defensive linemen on the field. There's a big difference.
The number of de's who can play in space isn't very large.
That's my only problem with the 5-2 you proposed for us: The 5 you're putting out there.
Presumably, you meant "package", as in "one of many."
Even in this Modern Era of SubPackages, the "52" as a "base" ~ thus presumably getting the largest share of Snaps ~ would get obliterated by Aerial 21st Century Offenses.
As a SubPackage, though, it would be very intriguing in Short Yardage situations.
Mayoclinic said:The Pats will likely run a multi-front hybrid defense, using 3, 4 and 5 man fronts, and there will not be any single predominant formation. I certainly didn't mean to imply that the Pats would run a 5-2 base the majority of the time.
Pretty much everyone continues to use the term "base" to refer to defensive formations with 4 DBs...
Personally, I would go with –No it doesn't, a 5-2-4 base is near perfect for a team going 3 WR, you have 3 corners and a single high safety and the OL are forced to match up one on one with the pass rush.
Let's use Denver as an example like you did:
D. Thomas: Browner (he hates being hit and loses interest, Browner is perfect for that)
Sanders: Revis
Welker: Dennard
J. Thomas: Collins/McCourty
Ball: Collins/McCourty
Press man to ruin the timing routes and the 5 DL force the OL to match up 1 on one with Easley, Chandler Jones and Kelly.
Question to the assembled Brains Trust.
How does the no-huddle affect all of this?
It's one thing to plan a series of varied packages to counter different formations, but it's no good if you can't get your personnel substituted onto the field. It strikes me that the option to substitute is becoming more valuable to the defense than to the offense -- a good reason to use the no-huddle even when your team isn't under time pressure.