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My problem with this is these players are people, not just some nameless, faceless automatons. And there are already plenty of injuries in a 16 game season. It's not about adding drama either as the last week of last year there were about 16 gazillion different playoff scenarios that could have panned out.
This is all about money for the owners, period.
Well, since the players, fans, and media all pretty much hate the idea, why not force it through?
There had better be a sh!tload of changes to roster and injury rules.
My problem with this is these players are people, not just some nameless, faceless automatons. And there are already plenty of injuries in a 16 game season. It's not about adding drama either as the last week of last year there were about 16 gazillion different playoff scenarios that could have panned out.
This is all about money for the owners, period.
I agree, but that already happens all the time. So a change to 18 weeks won't solve the problem, but it won't make it any worse.what i am going to hate is what if a team clinches week 14 or 15 and now has to waste 3-4 weeks and allow other teams (jets) to sneak into the playoffs again
what i am going to hate is what if a team clinches week 14 or 15 and now has to waste 3-4 weeks and allow other teams (jets) to sneak into the playoffs again
Firstly...the bottom line..is the level of play of football will GO DOWN...so quality will be lower with a longer season..I think that is obvious to any REAL football fan..It's bad enough now with 16 games..the quality of play is lower with more injuries...so it's sometimes the teams with less injuries instead OF the better teams....the 16 game season is what is the norm..but it has stretched a lot...TV revenue will go up...but I wonder by how much...given contracts now..and the change of economy..I really wonder how much it will be inflated.This is nothing but hysteria from some fans. I don't mean to pick on you NS, but you were the last to post this nonsense.
The 18 game season is a total win for both sides of the labor issue. Think about what it means. First the TV revenues will go up at least 11%. That's hundreds of millions of dollars for BOTH the players and owners. Then the rosters will have to be expanded by at least 3. That's 100 new jobs that didn't exist for the players in a 16 game season. Then for the fans you not only get 2 more weeks of meaningful football, we also get 2 fewer meaningless games were players get hurt too. And season ticket holders are only now extorted for one game a year instead of 2.
Now look at the down side player will have to play 2 more games. Will injuries go up? Probably in raw numbers simply because there are more game, but will injuries in the last 2 games go up incrementally? Its doubtful. When the league went from 14-16 games the same fears were brought up, and they just didn't occur. Why would they occur now.
In those years the Pats were playing so many playoff games, did they incur more than their share of injuries because they were playing a lot of 18 game seasons? Not really.
The bottom line here is the season wouldn't have to be a day longer. Having an 18 game season wouldn't add a single practice. What it WOULD do is add about 60 more meaningful snaps for starters. If you assume the average starter plays about 60 snaps a game that plus about 50 more in the 2 preseason games that are lost that would come to 1010. Under an 18 game season he's amass 1080 or only about 7% more playing time, or about 4 plays more a game over what he's playing now.
Now my raw numbers might be off some. I'm only guestimating. But the percentages aren't
However are some possible things they could do to mitigate some of the physical issues.
1. Expand the rosters to 56....or more
2. Expand the game day rosters to 48
3. Have the first week of training camp be no pads
4. Add more scrimmages with other teams
5. Think about adding a second bye week to aid in recovery.
The fans say they hate it (and I'm one of them), but they're sure as hell going to watch it. The league knows this and so do the fans.
I think we will find that even the NFL has a saturation point. I hate the idea as well. I now watch all games. Each game is critical. At 18 games?
Firstly...the bottom line..is the level of play of football will GO DOWN...so quality will be lower with a longer season..I think that is obvious to any REAL football fan..It's bad enough now with 16 games..the quality of play is lower with more injuries...so it's sometimes the teams with less injuries instead OF the better teams....the 16 game season is what is the norm..but it has stretched a lot...TV revenue will go up...but I wonder by how much...given contracts now..and the change of economy..I really wonder how much it will be inflated.
I am not sure how meaningful these 2 weeks will be? If teams are out of it playing terrible...2 more MEANINGLESS weeks instead. And again..how those teams PLAY in these last games..quality..GONE...
Why would they occur now?? At some point..the injuries and play will go downhill with x amount of games..it's NOT a straight line drop..but WILL fall quick at some point and the more games added..the more chance of that happening.
As far as those playoff games...and injuries...I wonder if you asked those players what they would say about that. There are many bumps and bruises that players play through..but adding two more will again add more chance for wear and tear.
They WILL need to adjust roster sizes..but I would not predict how many are REALLY needed...roster and game day roster....What is needed more are changes to IR so that players injured early can return.. AFTER so many weeks...BUT I am not sure how this can be done to avoid abuse by teams. BUT this will be needed.
NO pads first week?? Not sure that will help..BUT I do think they MAY need to add a week or so..for controlled scrimmages..will they replace the 2 preseason games?? The ONE thing in this 18 game season no one talks about is development and evaluation. Those 2 preseason games that were used for that purpose are gone...what or how will that be done? The fans MOST will not give a damn about any of that..but I think coaches DO care about that. Goodell DID suggest something needs to be done..at least he said that 2 years ago..BUT to me that was only lip service at best. A developmental league?? Again..not really worth it money wise..BUT that evaluation will be missed and THAT DOES need to be addressed. I also know many will say scrimmages are better...I say ask the coaches WHAT would help..or NOT help this process. Let them have input on how to replace those 2 games.
Adding another bye week MAY help..but the season will go way into February..and really how good will football be in the winter months in the north?? Just some points I think need to be looked at.
Yes, the unofficial word is exactly what you suggest: Super Sunday will be President's Day Weekend.If the 18 game season goes through and they add another bye for each team that means they have to add 3 weeks to the season right? If that is the case I would want it to be 2 weeks added at the start of the season - meaning a late August game and a game Labor Day weekend - and one week at the end of the season. That leads to the only thing I care about: Super Bowl Sunday being the day before Presidents Day meaning the day after is a holiday! Give me the day after the Super Bowl off from work and I will go along with whatever Goodell wants.
Firstly...the bottom line..is the level of play of football will GO DOWN...so quality will be lower with a longer season..I think that is obvious to any REAL football fan..It's bad enough now with 16 games..the quality of play is lower with more injuries...so it's sometimes the teams with less injuries instead OF the better teams....the 16 game season is what is the norm..but it has stretched a lot...TV revenue will go up...but I wonder by how much...given contracts now..and the change of economy..I really wonder how much it will be inflated.
I am not sure how meaningful these 2 weeks will be? If teams are out of it playing terrible...2 more MEANINGLESS weeks instead. And again..how those teams PLAY in these last games..quality..GONE...
Why would they occur now?? At some point..the injuries and play will go downhill with x amount of games..it's NOT a straight line drop..but WILL fall quick at some point and the more games added..the more chance of that happening.
As far as those playoff games...and injuries...I wonder if you asked those players what they would say about that. There are many bumps and bruises that players play through..but adding two more will again add more chance for wear and tear.
They WILL need to adjust roster sizes..but I would not predict how many are REALLY needed...roster and game day roster....What is needed more are changes to IR so that players injured early can return.. AFTER so many weeks...BUT I am not sure how this can be done to avoid abuse by teams. BUT this will be needed.
NO pads first week?? Not sure that will help..BUT I do think they MAY need to add a week or so..for controlled scrimmages..will they replace the 2 preseason games?? The ONE thing in this 18 game season no one talks about is development and evaluation. Those 2 preseason games that were used for that purpose are gone...what or how will that be done? The fans MOST will not give a damn about any of that..but I think coaches DO care about that. Goodell DID suggest something needs to be done..at least he said that 2 years ago..BUT to me that was only lip service at best. A developmental league?? Again..not really worth it money wise..BUT that evaluation will be missed and THAT DOES need to be addressed. I also know many will say scrimmages are better...I say ask the coaches WHAT would help..or NOT help this process. Let them have input on how to replace those 2 games.
Adding another bye week MAY help..but the season will go way into February..and really how good will football be in the winter months in the north?? Just some points I think need to be looked at.
Why is it that so many people against this move seem to think that adding 2 games will only add "meaningless" ones? Obviously adding 2 games to every team will increase both meaningful and meaningless games.I am not sure how meaningful these 2 weeks will be? If teams are out of it playing terrible...2 more MEANINGLESS weeks instead. And again..how those teams PLAY in these last games..quality..GONE...
You claim to be a true football fan, and yet you are afraid of there being more football games played during the winter months up north? You serious here?Adding another bye week MAY help..but the season will go way into February..and really how good will football be in the winter months in the north?? Just some points I think need to be looked at.