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So, I'm listening to 98.5 Sportshub this morning, and there are two arguments being made.
1. In regards to Belichick's comments that he is "absolutely" as optimistic and enthusiastic about Mac Jones being his QB as he was last year at about this time, the radio host flat out said, "I don't believe him." The host then went on to say he is more than convinced that the Patriots wanted Will Levis and that if they had managed to trade up for him in the 2nd round, they would've traded Mac away. Mindboggling argument, Levis was there for the taking by the Patriots at absolutely any point. If they wanted him, they could've taken him easily. Never mind that's he's a QB that went in the 2nd round.
2. They have questions about the Gonzalez pick. Why? Because the Patriots failed with Ras-I Dowling and JoeJuan Williams. Apparently, the Patriots do not coach well when it comes to bigger CBs, it's not the skillset they look for, they want smaller shiftier CBs, and they simply can't develop the bigger ones. A weird thing to say when you dont mention Williams' speed versus Gonzalez's speed. Beyond that, the Patriots signed 2 really big CBs in the 2010s who were scuffling with their prior teams, and they resurrected their careers and made them Pro Bowlers: Aqib Talib and Stephen Gilmore. These guys became great players AFTER they signed. The narrative is questionable at best.
I don't want to go after the Patriot radio people too much because I'm sure there are examples of stirring the pot everywhere in the league. But I would argue that Patriots radio is extreme.
Over the last couple of days, I've seen posters here talk about the Bills' excellent drafting over the last several years. Which is funny to me because I'm in Buffalo and I hear the radio guys regularly blast the Bills for drafting defensive players instead of WRs, and furthermore, their defensive players simply don't pan out the way they should. The talk here is that the Bills lost in the playoffs because once Von Miller went down, they had no pressure on the QB and couldn't defend the pass. And this is despite the enormous amount of resources spent to do exactly that.
Look at the Bills' drafting under Beane:
1st: Shaq Lawson
2nd: Reggie Ragland
1st: Tre White
1st: Tremaine Edmunds
3rd: Harrison Phillips
1st: Ed Oliver
2nd: Aj Epenesa
1st: Greg Rousseau
2nd: Boogie Basham
1st: Kaiir Elam
3rd: Terrel Bernard
I mean, what happens when you spend 11 prime picks on defense in a short time span, and only 2 of them work out (Tre White and Edmunds, even though Edmunds has a lot of detractors in Buffalo)?
In New England, we talk about the Bills great drafting. In Buffalo, they talk about the extremely poor drafting by Beane and McDermott.
It really amazes me how talk radio infects and influences the minds of fans. I'm convinced that's what's happened to this board and to Twitter Patriot fans in general. The negativity is overwhelming. The 2 examples I gave above for why the Patriots are failing at the draft and why the Patriots are lying about things, they're logically absurd... but yet this is what passes so often as the truth. All this talk is TWISTED.
1. In regards to Belichick's comments that he is "absolutely" as optimistic and enthusiastic about Mac Jones being his QB as he was last year at about this time, the radio host flat out said, "I don't believe him." The host then went on to say he is more than convinced that the Patriots wanted Will Levis and that if they had managed to trade up for him in the 2nd round, they would've traded Mac away. Mindboggling argument, Levis was there for the taking by the Patriots at absolutely any point. If they wanted him, they could've taken him easily. Never mind that's he's a QB that went in the 2nd round.
2. They have questions about the Gonzalez pick. Why? Because the Patriots failed with Ras-I Dowling and JoeJuan Williams. Apparently, the Patriots do not coach well when it comes to bigger CBs, it's not the skillset they look for, they want smaller shiftier CBs, and they simply can't develop the bigger ones. A weird thing to say when you dont mention Williams' speed versus Gonzalez's speed. Beyond that, the Patriots signed 2 really big CBs in the 2010s who were scuffling with their prior teams, and they resurrected their careers and made them Pro Bowlers: Aqib Talib and Stephen Gilmore. These guys became great players AFTER they signed. The narrative is questionable at best.
I don't want to go after the Patriot radio people too much because I'm sure there are examples of stirring the pot everywhere in the league. But I would argue that Patriots radio is extreme.
Over the last couple of days, I've seen posters here talk about the Bills' excellent drafting over the last several years. Which is funny to me because I'm in Buffalo and I hear the radio guys regularly blast the Bills for drafting defensive players instead of WRs, and furthermore, their defensive players simply don't pan out the way they should. The talk here is that the Bills lost in the playoffs because once Von Miller went down, they had no pressure on the QB and couldn't defend the pass. And this is despite the enormous amount of resources spent to do exactly that.
Look at the Bills' drafting under Beane:
1st: Shaq Lawson
2nd: Reggie Ragland
1st: Tre White
1st: Tremaine Edmunds
3rd: Harrison Phillips
1st: Ed Oliver
2nd: Aj Epenesa
1st: Greg Rousseau
2nd: Boogie Basham
1st: Kaiir Elam
3rd: Terrel Bernard
I mean, what happens when you spend 11 prime picks on defense in a short time span, and only 2 of them work out (Tre White and Edmunds, even though Edmunds has a lot of detractors in Buffalo)?
In New England, we talk about the Bills great drafting. In Buffalo, they talk about the extremely poor drafting by Beane and McDermott.
It really amazes me how talk radio infects and influences the minds of fans. I'm convinced that's what's happened to this board and to Twitter Patriot fans in general. The negativity is overwhelming. The 2 examples I gave above for why the Patriots are failing at the draft and why the Patriots are lying about things, they're logically absurd... but yet this is what passes so often as the truth. All this talk is TWISTED.
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