RayClay
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superbowl hangover is a crock
History says otherwise.
Weren't the perfect season Dolphins the last team to win the SB after losing it? And one of only two?
When something doesn't happen in 40 years, we tend to call it a pattern.
no -- your interpretation of history says otherwise.
people see ufo's and bigfoot fairly often, but that doesn't mean they exist.
I remember when people said the same thing about the nba.
there are 32 teams in the league -- you make it sound like one of them is owed a superbowl.
here's something else to learn from history:
16Th Century Beliefs About Witch Craft
no -- your interpretation of history says otherwise.
people see ufo's and bigfoot fairly often, but that doesn't mean they exist.
I remember when people said the same thing about the nba.
there are 32 teams in the league -- you make it sound like one of them is owed a superbowl.
here's something else to learn from history:
16Th Century Beliefs About Witch Craft
Now, barring an injury to Tom Brady - which is the thing that derailed their last post-SB attempt, the Patriots are poised to put an end to this pattern.
I think it's interesting that you happened to bring up this example, because it's a great illustration of what I'm talking about -- how often do teams win 11 games and miss the playoffs?
if you like making lists.
getting to the superbowl is not an easy thing -- there's a lot more luck and circumstance involved than most people would like to believe.
2007 - pats make superbowl
2008 - pats suffer 'superbowl hangover' by not making playoffs....?
you attribute this 'failure' to brady's absence, yet in 2001, 2005, and 2009 the pats made the playoffs with 11 or fewer wins and brady onthe team.
I'll give you another illustration of what I'm talking about --- you sound like the kind of person that believes red cars are more dangerous to drive than other colors because it's been shown that red cars are involved in more accidents.
The Patriots missed the playoffs in 2008 b/c - relative to the competition that they all faced that year - they were not one of the best teams in the AFC. It's pretty simple.
That 2008 team could not beat a good team, it had historically one of the easiest schedules in NFL history, and it's 11 wins were inflated.
Had Tom Brady been on that squad, it honestly might've gone 16-0 again.
Fatigue from having played more games than anyone else the year before;
and yet this team is part of your list of "clear and overwhelming statistical evidence" that superbowl teams can't have success the following year because of some voodoo curse
omfg -- this is what I'm talking about when I say you have a vivid imagination.
While all trends someday have to come to an end,what separates the 2011 Patriots from the other 39 teams that failed to win the SB the next season?
Are the 2012 Pats going to be good enough to do something that no other team has done before you were even a thought in your parents minds remains to be seen.
Winning the Super Bowl the next season after losing it makes that losing team a longshot..
whether or not your closed mind believes it or not,it's a fact.
It's so hard that even getting back to the SB and lose it again goes all the way back to the early 90s Bills.
The simple post-SB factors that I have been talking about are obviously negated by many of the things the Patriots do that have helped them maintain the unprecedented level of success they have had for so long. Belichick's teams are used to long seasons & short offseasons; are used to being a target for opponents every week; and are as mentally tough as they come.
you are absolutely killing me with this nonsense, so this has gotta be it for me.
what you're determined to believe is that all the other teams that make the superbowl are fatigued by these couple extra games and so won't have subsequent success, but all these players on belichick's teams are helped by making the superbowl because it makes them resistant to the fatigue of playing a couple extra games.
(and all this despite the player turnover on all these teams each year.....)
you win!!!
The Patriots missed the playoffs in 2008 b/c - relative to the competition that they all faced that year - they were not one of the best teams in the AFC. It's pretty simple.
That 2008 team could not beat a good team, it had historically one of the easiest schedules in NFL history, and it's 11 wins were inflated.
Had Tom Brady been on that squad, it honestly might've gone 16-0 again.
11 wins or not - the goal is to make the playoffs, the Patriots did not do it, nor did they deserve to considering they lost nearly every game they played against decent competition. It was an achievement for Belichick to do what they did that year - and a tribute to Cassel, but that was not a playoff caliber team, and it bore itself out over 16 games.