Content Post Battle plan

[Ivan]

I've been giving this a lot of thought lately, and decided to make myself the GM for the next 3 months and create a battle plan that will make us competitive within 2 years and enjoyable (at worst) to watch next year.

FA -

1. Our own - Most of this should be credited to Phil Perry. He did all the work, I just liked most of what he chose.

Resign - Owenu, Duggar, Henry, (and I'd add small deals for PBrown, and MWilson)

Add- Ridley WR, JWilliams OT, KFuller CB and DHunter Edge. Perry gives fair market deals to everyone and still claims to have over $10MM left when you get to camp. (it would be even more if you add Wilson as your bridge QB at around $1MM rather than Brissett at $8MM like Perry did.)

With Hunter on the team you trade MJudon for a 3rd or 4th, and instead of having a great rusher who is 32 and near the end, you have a great YOUNG rusher and resign Uche and go with Hunter, Uche and Jennings as your 3 edge guy rotation

That is a lot of money an a LOT of holes filled. Then you can have as fairly solid OL of Williams, Strange, Andrews, Sow, Owenu. Henry at TE and a WR group of Ridley and Parker on the outside and Pop in the slot. That is a good start to an improvement at WR. We have a clear #1 in Ridley and a solid guy in Parker with size on the other side. Douglas, who was probably our best WR last season should make a leap.

The other thing I do before the draft is to extend Barmore. I would really like to see that happen well before camp.

Draft -

Now the REALLY hard stuff needs to happen. First a decision has to be made at QB. I like adding Wilson, because at worst he's a quality NFL starter and whomever you add at QB will benefit from sitting for a year or 2.

I have heard so much about all the QB's so far. Williams seems like he's a lock to go #1. Daniels, has all the physical talent in the world and will likely rise after the combine. Maye has close to the athletic ability and escapability, but he's likely to be the more durable. Seems like you can't lose with any of those first 3 picks. Unfortunately history has shown us that at LEAST, one of those picks are going to bust or at best disappoint. Seems like a crap shoot when the music stops one of those first 3 picks are going to unable to find a seat at the table.

The concensus is that after those 3 there are 3 very good QB prospects that will be available (McCarthy, Pennix, and Nix) and for various reasons were thought to be end of the first round top 10 of the 2nd round talent. McCarthy because he is so young and wasn't asked to do much at Michigan, Pennix because of age and injury issues, and Nix because of age and arm questions. (you might want to add Rattler as well) But the bottom line is that there IS a gap between the first and 2nd tier QB's.

History tells us that the hype on QB's will only go UP as the draft season goes on. I'm seeing a lot of mocks where McCarthy is going in the 10-12 range. It would not shock me in the least to see 6 guys picked in the first round.

So in a draft where I think I need to pick 4 guys who will have significant roles by year 2, I want as many picks as possible on day 2, I will be willing to trade that #3 for to Atlanta at #8 for their 2nd in this round and a conditional first round pick in 25 (based on percentage of snaps the #3 pick takes in 24, lets say 55%) Then if it looks like McCarthy might still be there at 12, I'd trade down again with Denver (with the promise that they won't take McCarthy with #8 and pick up 3rd round picks in this year and next year's draft.

Then I get McCarthy at #12 and have added AT LEAST 2 quality picks in this draft and a likely first and 3rd in net year's draft. I get my QB of the future and when he's ready to start, he won't be 21 year old 201lb QB with a decent arm, but a much stronger 220lb guy with a strong arm in a year or 2.

The next part of my draft strategy is to go against conventional wisdom and when it comes time to look at receivers, think TE and not WR. Simply because it is harder to find the quality TE than the quality WR. There are simply so MANY NFL caliber WR's that the colleges are producing that you HAVE to go looking for the rarer species. In my ideal scenario with my first pick in the 2nd I'm looking for the best TE available. with my 2nd I'm looking OT

The end result of this strategy is that you fill most of the holes you had on the OL. You add your QB of the future without having to jump right in and start his first year, You have 4 more picks in the top 100 to add depth and explosiveness plus adding 2 more high picks for next year's draft. Imho, this strategy will leave us with the probability of having a competitive interesting team to watch next year, with an outside chance of a playoff appearance, and going into 2025 with a reasonable amount of cap space and 2 first round picks.

I'm so happy with this plan I gave myself a contract extension. What do you think?

Well Ken, I think that’s very presumptuous of you. While you were on vacation I took over the GM role. But if you want to apply for an assistant position I will give you some consideration. Although I will admit that your extended vacation gives me some pause as to whether you remain as dedicated as what i’m looking for? It’s a 24 hour a day position, and the pay sucks, but you might love it.

 

[Hyped]

Just ****ing shoot me.

 

[mgteich]

I've been giving this a lot of thought lately, and decided to make myself the GM for the next 3 months and create a battle plan that will make us competitive within 2 years and enjoyable (at worst) to watch next year.

FA -

1. Our own - Most of this should be credited to Phil Perry. He did all the work, I just liked most of what he chose.

Resign - Owenu, Duggar, Henry, (and I'd add small deals for PBrown, and MWilson)

Add- Ridley WR, JWilliams OT, KFuller CB and DHunter Edge. Perry gives fair market deals to everyone and still claims to have over $10MM left when you get to camp. (it would be even more if you add Wilson as your bridge QB at around $1MM rather than Brissett at $8MM like Perry did.)

With Hunter on the team you trade MJudon for a 3rd or 4th, and instead of having a great rusher who is 32 and near the end, you have a great YOUNG rusher and resign Uche and go with Hunter, Uche and Jennings as your 3 edge guy rotation

That is a lot of money an a LOT of holes filled. Then you can have as fairly solid OL of Williams, Strange, Andrews, Sow, Owenu. Henry at TE and a WR group of Ridley and Parker on the outside and Pop in the slot. That is a good start to an improvement at WR. We have a clear #1 in Ridley and a solid guy in Parker with size on the other side. Douglas, who was probably our best WR last season should make a leap.

The other thing I do before the draft is to extend Barmore. I would really like to see that happen well before camp.

Draft -

Now the REALLY hard stuff needs to happen. First a decision has to be made at QB. I like adding Wilson, because at worst he's a quality NFL starter and whomever you add at QB will benefit from sitting for a year or 2.

I have heard so much about all the QB's so far. Williams seems like he's a lock to go #1. Daniels, has all the physical talent in the world and will likely rise after the combine. Maye has close to the athletic ability and escapability, but he's likely to be the more durable. Seems like you can't lose with any of those first 3 picks. Unfortunately history has shown us that at LEAST, one of those picks are going to bust or at best disappoint. Seems like a crap shoot when the music stops one of those first 3 picks are going to unable to find a seat at the table.

The concensus is that after those 3 there are 3 very good QB prospects that will be available (McCarthy, Pennix, and Nix) and for various reasons were thought to be end of the first round top 10 of the 2nd round talent. McCarthy because he is so young and wasn't asked to do much at Michigan, Pennix because of age and injury issues, and Nix because of age and arm questions. (you might want to add Rattler as well) But the bottom line is that there IS a gap between the first and 2nd tier QB's.

History tells us that the hype on QB's will only go UP as the draft season goes on. I'm seeing a lot of mocks where McCarthy is going in the 10-12 range. It would not shock me in the least to see 6 guys picked in the first round.

So in a draft where I think I need to pick 4 guys who will have significant roles by year 2, I want as many picks as possible on day 2, I will be willing to trade that #3 for to Atlanta at #8 for their 2nd in this round and a conditional first round pick in 25 (based on percentage of snaps the #3 pick takes in 24, lets say 55%) Then if it looks like McCarthy might still be there at 12, I'd trade down again with Denver (with the promise that they won't take McCarthy with #8 and pick up 3rd round picks in this year and next year's draft.

Then I get McCarthy at #12 and have added AT LEAST 2 quality picks in this draft and a likely first and 3rd in net year's draft. I get my QB of the future and when he's ready to start, he won't be 21 year old 201lb QB with a decent arm, but a much stronger 220lb guy with a strong arm in a year or 2.

The next part of my draft strategy is to go against conventional wisdom and when it comes time to look at receivers, think TE and not WR. Simply because it is harder to find the quality TE than the quality WR. There are simply so MANY NFL caliber WR's that the colleges are producing that you HAVE to go looking for the rarer species. In my ideal scenario with my first pick in the 2nd I'm looking for the best TE available. with my 2nd I'm looking OT

The end result of this strategy is that you fill most of the holes you had on the OL. You add your QB of the future without having to jump right in and start his first year, You have 4 more picks in the top 100 to add depth and explosiveness plus adding 2 more high picks for next year's draft. Imho, this strategy will leave us with the probability of having a competitive interesting team to watch next year, with an outside chance of a playoff appearance, and going into 2025 with a reasonable amount of cap space and 2 first round picks.

I'm so happy with this plan I gave myself a contract extension. What do you think?

A really great plan if you can get every team in the league to agree they won't pick McCarthy before 12.

 

[mgteich]

I have to admit that I’m surprised by the reaction to this. I expected way more people to agree with this idea.

not me

There are a lot of teams that would want to draft a QB in the top 11. PLANNING to take Mccarthy at 12 doesn't work for me. If Daniels and Harrison are gone by 4, there will be lots of opportunity for teams to move up for a QB before pick 12.

 

[venecol]

FA -
1. Resign - Owenu, Duggar, Henry, (and I'd add small deals for PBrown, and MWilson)

How is Onwenu being signed? Tag? Then no.
No on Henry, sign Schultz. OK on P.Brown.
Need a real FS, Dugger isn't it. Sign McKinney.

Add- Ridley WR, JWilliams OT, KFuller CB and DHunter Edge.

Ridley - no, if JAX doesn't want him neither should we.
JWilliams - no
KFuller - he's 29 but ok.
DHunter - yes

(it would be even more if you add Wilson as your bridge QB at around $1MM rather than Brissett at $8MM like Perry did.)

Confused here, are you saying signing Russell Wilson will save money over Brissett? You think Wilson signs for $1M. Lol

With Hunter on the team you trade MJudon for a 3rd or 4th, and instead of having a great rusher who is 32 and near the end, you have a great YOUNG rusher and resign Uche and go with Hunter, Uche and Jennings as your 3 edge guy rotation

Lol, Hunter will be 30 in '24, hardly young. No on trading Judon.

Uche & Jennings are UFAs. So you basically want to re-sign: Onwenu, Hunter, Dugger, PBrown, MWilson, Uche & Jennings. With $100M we should be trying to get better.

The other thing I do before the draft is to extend Barmore. I would really like to see that happen well before camp.

100%

Draft -

I have heard so much about all the QB's so far. Seems like a crap shoot when the music stops one of those first 3 picks are going to unable to find a seat at the table.

Unfortunately, this is our #1 need, so being scared isn't a thing. If AvP id's a QB @ #3 he can develop, then sign him.

So in a draft where I think I need to pick 4 guys who will have significant roles by year 2, I want as many picks as possible on day 2, I will be willing to trade that #3 for to Atlanta at #8 for their 2nd in this round and a conditional first round pick in 25 (based on percentage of snaps the #3 pick takes in 24, lets say 55%)

Not excited about trading back, but if we do, wouldn't want to fall further than #5 so we can pick Joe Alt (LT) ahead of the Giants.

Then if it looks like McCarthy might still be there at 12, I'd trade down again with Denver (with the promise that they won't take McCarthy with #8 and pick up 3rd round picks in this year and next year's draft.

Denver needs a QB, so their promises won't mean much. Ain't happening.

Then I get McCarthy at #12 and have added AT LEAST 2 quality picks in this draft and a likely first and 3rd in net year's draft. I get my QB of the future.

You say 1 of the top 3 QBs will be a bust, so it's a crap shoot, but McCarthy isn't? You've designated him QBOF already? Lol

The next part of my draft strategy is to go against conventional wisdom and when it comes time to look at receivers, think TE and not WR.

I have no issue w/ a TE in draft (we desperately need one), but we need both and WRs are more expensive.

The end result of this strategy is that you fill most of the holes you had on the OL.

JWilliams lost his LT job to O Brown and asked for a trade before settling at RT. Not so sure he's the answer. Draft is deep at T.

You add your QB of the future without having to jump right in and start his first year, You have 4 more picks in the top 100 to add depth and explosiveness plus adding 2 more high picks for next year's draft. Imho, this strategy will leave us with the probability of having a competitive interesting team to watch next year, with an outside chance of a playoff appearance, and going into 2025 with a reasonable amount of cap space and 2 first round picks.

I'm so happy with this plan I gave myself a contract extension. What do you think?

I give you a C+

 

[DW Toys]

I've been giving this a lot of thought lately, and decided to make myself the GM for the next 3 months and create a battle plan that will make us competitive within 2 years and enjoyable (at worst) to watch next year.

FA -

1. Our own - Most of this should be credited to Phil Perry. He did all the work, I just liked most of what he chose.

Resign - Owenu, Duggar, Henry, (and I'd add small deals for PBrown, and MWilson)

Add- Ridley WR, JWilliams OT, KFuller CB and DHunter Edge. Perry gives fair market deals to everyone and still claims to have over $10MM left when you get to camp. (it would be even more if you add Wilson as your bridge QB at around $1MM rather than Brissett at $8MM like Perry did.)

With Hunter on the team you trade MJudon for a 3rd or 4th, and instead of having a great rusher who is 32 and near the end, you have a great YOUNG rusher and resign Uche and go with Hunter, Uche and Jennings as your 3 edge guy rotation

That is a lot of money an a LOT of holes filled. Then you can have as fairly solid OL of Williams, Strange, Andrews, Sow, Owenu. Henry at TE and a WR group of Ridley and Parker on the outside and Pop in the slot. That is a good start to an improvement at WR. We have a clear #1 in Ridley and a solid guy in Parker with size on the other side. Douglas, who was probably our best WR last season should make a leap.

The other thing I do before the draft is to extend Barmore. I would really like to see that happen well before camp.

Draft -

Now the REALLY hard stuff needs to happen. First a decision has to be made at QB. I like adding Wilson, because at worst he's a quality NFL starter and whomever you add at QB will benefit from sitting for a year or 2.

I have heard so much about all the QB's so far. Williams seems like he's a lock to go #1. Daniels, has all the physical talent in the world and will likely rise after the combine. Maye has close to the athletic ability and escapability, but he's likely to be the more durable. Seems like you can't lose with any of those first 3 picks. Unfortunately history has shown us that at LEAST, one of those picks are going to bust or at best disappoint. Seems like a crap shoot when the music stops one of those first 3 picks are going to unable to find a seat at the table.

The concensus is that after those 3 there are 3 very good QB prospects that will be available (McCarthy, Pennix, and Nix) and for various reasons were thought to be end of the first round top 10 of the 2nd round talent. McCarthy because he is so young and wasn't asked to do much at Michigan, Pennix because of age and injury issues, and Nix because of age and arm questions. (you might want to add Rattler as well) But the bottom line is that there IS a gap between the first and 2nd tier QB's.

History tells us that the hype on QB's will only go UP as the draft season goes on. I'm seeing a lot of mocks where McCarthy is going in the 10-12 range. It would not shock me in the least to see 6 guys picked in the first round.

So in a draft where I think I need to pick 4 guys who will have significant roles by year 2, I want as many picks as possible on day 2, I will be willing to trade that #3 for to Atlanta at #8 for their 2nd in this round and a conditional first round pick in 25 (based on percentage of snaps the #3 pick takes in 24, lets say 55%) Then if it looks like McCarthy might still be there at 12, I'd trade down again with Denver (with the promise that they won't take McCarthy with #8 and pick up 3rd round picks in this year and next year's draft.

Then I get McCarthy at #12 and have added AT LEAST 2 quality picks in this draft and a likely first and 3rd in net year's draft. I get my QB of the future and when he's ready to start, he won't be 21 year old 201lb QB with a decent arm, but a much stronger 220lb guy with a strong arm in a year or 2.

The next part of my draft strategy is to go against conventional wisdom and when it comes time to look at receivers, think TE and not WR. Simply because it is harder to find the quality TE than the quality WR. There are simply so MANY NFL caliber WR's that the colleges are producing that you HAVE to go looking for the rarer species. In my ideal scenario with my first pick in the 2nd I'm looking for the best TE available. with my 2nd I'm looking OT

The end result of this strategy is that you fill most of the holes you had on the OL. You add your QB of the future without having to jump right in and start his first year, You have 4 more picks in the top 100 to add depth and explosiveness plus adding 2 more high picks for next year's draft. Imho, this strategy will leave us with the probability of having a competitive interesting team to watch next year, with an outside chance of a playoff appearance, and going into 2025 with a reasonable amount of cap space and 2 first round picks.

I'm so happy with this plan I gave myself a contract extension. What do you think?

Cousin Ken, Your permutations here are intriguing.
Breakfast was great: crisp maple bacon, well browned pan fried left over french fries with sea salt, red peppers cooked up and mixed into two over easy eggs topped with a slice of warmed provalone cheese , tea and grapecranberry juice finished with a wedge of coffee cake and a small donut bite(didn't need that but what the hell)

Here is the conumdrum. Do we want to slog through three season of a rebuild or do we want competitive in 2024? I want to see competitive. I don't want to be the Panthers for three seasons or more. We have the money!

"Resign - Owenu, Duggar, Henry, (and I'd add small deals for PBrown, and MWilson)" I think Reagor and also Zeke have done enough o resign.

"Add- Ridley WR, OK. Jonah Williams OT" (might be my first signing because of sample class) my CB would be Xavien Howard, and Christian Wilkins (back up the brinks truck) The Dolphins say they will tag him to the tune of $21mm but they are $51mm in the hole and that would take magic and that seems like horse feces. I would keep Judon. He has become the defacto cheerleader for the whole Pats organization and poach another Dol[phin we tried for last year Van Ginkle The kid can cover as well. A prioririty signing.



Cutting J.C. Jackson (or redo) would bring the numbers close.My four major focal points would be resihn of Owenu, Wilkins (yes defense), Ridley (because the shelf is bare), and Jonah Williams (see Ridley)

Van Ginkle is an assending player and Wilkins can be the face of the defense for years with Barmore (but you have to sit down with him at some point).

Finally I am looking at TE Dalton Schultz. He was a fighter on the Texans. The Patriots need more heart. Two TE sets that can catch will be a key if we start rookie QBs'. They did not use Gesicki correctly in 2023 but Schultz is an upgrade and can play on the line.

Draft; Yes I am one of those who fall into "let's get picks to fill major lack of talent on the rest of the roster" unless you can prove to me that none of the holy three are going to be busts.

Now attack the Draft. If the Giants want #3 and are willing to give up pick #6, plus pick #39 and pick #47. I might take that haul. Say Alt at #6 and at #34 I would opt for Bo Nix (.....ehh perhaps McCarthy but I do not know why) and at #39 Texas WR Mitchell and double dip with WR Leggett at pick #47. At pick #68 I am going QB Spencer Rattler who the Pats met withn several times at the Senior Bowl. He might have the best arm in the Draft and he has matured. At our pick in round 4 I would take TE Dallin Holker of Colorado State. His style reminds me of Russ Francis. He even runs like Francis. 64 receptions and 6 TDs in 2023. Might be a sleeper.Important pick if we don't get a FA TE signed. No one talks about this kid.



So I am double dippeing at WR and QB and no........I am not taking Brissett.. I would give the keys to Wilson if he is released for a two year contract to get these kids some time. His Stats were very good and he won twice as many games as we did with a Team not much better. If not, roll the dice with the kiddy QBs. Just not at #3.

Torches and pitch forks?

DW Toys

 

[JohnJH]

Today, over at "The Athletic" the writers did a mock draft...

- Pick #3 was dealt to the Falcons for pick #8, 2024 2nd (43 I think), and a 2025 1st.
- Pick #8 was then used on the OT from Penn State...Fashu something.
- And we then gave up our original 2nd rounder for Justin Fields.

Food for thought.....

Hell no!!!

 

[JohnJH]

Cousin Ken, Your permutations here are intriguing.
Breakfast was great: crisp maple bacon, well browned pan fried left over french fries with sea salt, red peppers cooked up and mixed into two over easy eggs topped with a slice of warmed provalone cheese , tea and grapecranberry juice finished with a wedge of coffee cake and a small donut bite(didn't need that but what the hell)

Here is the conumdrum. Do we want to slog through three season of a rebuild or do we want competitive in 2024? I want to see competitive. I don't want to be the Panthers for three seasons or more. We have the money!

"Resign - Owenu, Duggar, Henry, (and I'd add small deals for PBrown, and MWilson)" I think Reagor and also Zeke have done enough o resign.

"Add- Ridley WR, OK. Jonah Williams OT" (might be my first signing because of sample class) my CB would be Xavien Howard, and Christian Wilkins (back up the brinks truck) The Dolphins say they will tag him to the tune of $21mm but they are $51mm in the hole and that would take magic and that seems like horse feces. I would keep Judon. He has become the defacto cheerleader for the whole Pats organization and poach another Dol[phin we tried for last year Van Ginkle The kid can cover as well. A prioririty signing.



Cutting J.C. Jackson (or redo) would bring the numbers close.My four major focal points would be resihn of Owenu, Wilkins (yes defense), Ridley (because the shelf is bare), and Jonah Williams (see Ridley)

Van Ginkle is an assending player and Wilkins can be the face of the defense for years with Barmore (but you have to sit down with him at some point).

Finally I am looking at TE Dalton Schultz. He was a fighter on the Texans. The Patriots need more heart. Two TE sets that can catch will be a key if we start rookie QBs'. They did not use Gesicki correctly in 2023 but Schultz is an upgrade and can play on the line.

Draft; Yes I am one of those who fall into "let's get picks to fill major lack of talent on the rest of the roster" unless you can prove to me that none of the holy three are going to be busts.

Now attack the Draft. If the Giants want #3 and are willing to give up pick #6, plus pick #39 and pick #47. I might take that haul. Say Alt at #6 and at #34 I would opt for Bo Nix (.....ehh perhaps McCarthy but I do not know why) and at #39 Texas WR Mitchell and double dip with WR Leggett at pick #47. At pick #68 I am going QB Spencer Rattler who the Pats met withn several times at the Senior Bowl. He might have the best arm in the Draft and he has matured. At our pick in round 4 I would take TE Dallin Holker of Colorado State. His style reminds me of Russ Francis. He even runs like Francis. 64 receptions and 6 TDs in 2023. Might be a sleeper.Important pick if we don't get a FA TE signed. No one talks about this kid.



So I am double dippeing at WR and QB and no........I am not taking Brissett.. I would give the keys to Wilson if he is released for a two year contract to get these kids some time. His Stats were very good and he won twice as many games as we did with a Team not much better. If not, roll the dice with the kiddy QBs. Just not at #3.

Torches and pitch forks?

DW Toys

If we don't get Maye at QB at #3, then I would go with McCarthy at whatever other than #3 pick. No on Penix and Nix. McCarthy (and even Maye), are young enough to sit for one or two years while they build up the rest of the offense, and they'll still be young when they become the starter.

 

[Ivan]

not me

There are a lot of teams that would want to draft a QB in the top 11. PLANNING to take Mccarthy at 12 doesn't work for me. If Daniels and Harrison are gone by 4, there will be lots of opportunity for teams to move up for a QB before pick 12.

I was talking about shooting me.

 

[Ivan]

See mg, someone gets it.

 

[Ivan]

Listen up everyone, because I’m only going to say this once,at least in the next half hour. Any scheming that has the Patriots getting that worthless bag of crap that is Justin Fields is to be completely ignored. And you are all instructed to given anyone who suggests this the silent treatment, and don’t relent on this until they have committed seppuku. If it happens again I will be sending PatFanKen to your house to punch you in the face, and he means business. We will not be taking on someone else’s trash, especially when that trash is going to want over 40 million a year in a year from now. And don’t start throwing Russell Wilson’s name around either, if The Apprentive was still around he would already be on it.

 

[BTTA]

Breakfast was great: crisp maple bacon, well browned pan fried left over french fries with sea salt, red peppers cooked up and mixed into two over easy eggs topped with a slice of warmed provalone cheese , tea and grapecranberry juice finished with a wedge of coffee cake and a small donut bite(didn't need that but what the hell)

DW Toys

My blood work came back after reading a few of these posts and my doctor has strongly recommended I stop.

 

[kevan]

Qb
Anything can happen. Signing Baker Mayfield and Mike Evans off of Tampa Bay after the buccs signed Brady would be ironic. This defense can get better but it's already at least playoff caliber. it's not likely but I wouldn't be shocked. Baker has connections to Wolff and AVP. The only other qb worth talking about is Jacoby Brissett as a bridge. Gardener Minshew maybe I guess. And then the draft. Baker was drafted 1 overall what he did for the rams on short notice was impressive more than anything he would offer stability. Again unlikely but you can hit the ground running
RB
Austin ekeler, dandre swift, AJ dillon, Antonio Gibson- patriots could be potentially adding 3 RBS this offseason so at least 1 thru FA
Pats desperately need a pass catching rb
In the draft ya got brooks, Irving, Dylan laube, Michael wiley, Blake Watson, rasheen Ali maybe some others.
WR
Looks bleak. I only sign Evans if it's a package deal with Baker. Stability plan.
The prize of free agency is Michael Pittman jr if I'm Elliot Wolff I offer him a 5 year deal that would be huge. Im not as high on Ridley hes gonna be 30 himself and I think he needs to be a 2. Sleeper FA for me is DJ Chark. 6'3 200 4.3 speed he will get you way more production than Parker who has to go who else? Curtis Samuel? I don't know I've looked I don't like it.
TE
Noah fant, Dalton shultz pats almost have to sign one of em. I let Henry walk maybe keep Pharaoh Brown to be a blocker and a younger option would be trevon wesco
Tackle
2 sleeper players would be yosh nijman or Ezra Cleveland. I know Ezra Cleveland is playing guard right now but the kid can play RT he's a freak and offers some upside.
Yosh nijman is a freak too and Wolff was in Green Bay with him so he'll know
These would be reasonable moves pats could cut McDermott.
I mentioned 2 packers nijman and AJ dillon
I'll mention one more on defense DT Kenny Clark who spoke highly of patriots new dline coach. Pats could pluck him off of GB
The defense just needs a piece or 2 maybe a true FS and a true 2nd boundary corner
Some depth sleepers thru udfa's

 

[Ivan]

My plan is starting to shape up.

Free agency: Using Spotrac for AAV

Sign Saquon Barkley RB 10 million AAV

Sign Ryan Tannehill 20 million AAV ( guesstimate)

Sign Tyson Smith OT 7.5 million

Sign Josh Jones OT 5 million AAV ( g

Sign Christian Wilkins DT 21 million AAV

Sign Antoine Winfield 16 million AAV

Thats 79.5 million AAV

CUT JC Jackson

Use the rest to re-sign their ownfree agents Trade Mac for an 8th round pick.

Wilkins and Winfield could get tagged, but they are the top players for me in free agency.

Draft either Daniels or Maye at QB, then go either OT or WR at #34, depending on who is the better prospect on the board, Then try to move up with theirv3rd pick and fill the remaining need.

 

[rogerthat]

I've been giving this a lot of thought lately, and decided to make myself the GM for the next 3 months and create a battle plan that will make us competitive within 2 years and enjoyable (at worst) to watch next year.

FA -

1. Our own - Most of this should be credited to Phil Perry. He did all the work, I just liked most of what he chose.

Resign - Owenu, Duggar, Henry, (and I'd add small deals for PBrown, and MWilson)

Add- Ridley WR, JWilliams OT, KFuller CB and DHunter Edge. Perry gives fair market deals to everyone and still claims to have over $10MM left when you get to camp. (it would be even more if you add Wilson as your bridge QB at around $1MM rather than Brissett at $8MM like Perry did.)

With Hunter on the team you trade MJudon for a 3rd or 4th, and instead of having a great rusher who is 32 and near the end, you have a great YOUNG rusher and resign Uche and go with Hunter, Uche and Jennings as your 3 edge guy rotation

That is a lot of money an a LOT of holes filled. Then you can have as fairly solid OL of Williams, Strange, Andrews, Sow, Owenu. Henry at TE and a WR group of Ridley and Parker on the outside and Pop in the slot. That is a good start to an improvement at WR. We have a clear #1 in Ridley and a solid guy in Parker with size on the other side. Douglas, who was probably our best WR last season should make a leap.

The other thing I do before the draft is to extend Barmore. I would really like to see that happen well before camp.

Draft -

Now the REALLY hard stuff needs to happen. First a decision has to be made at QB. I like adding Wilson, because at worst he's a quality NFL starter and whomever you add at QB will benefit from sitting for a year or 2.

I have heard so much about all the QB's so far. Williams seems like he's a lock to go #1. Daniels, has all the physical talent in the world and will likely rise after the combine. Maye has close to the athletic ability and escapability, but he's likely to be the more durable. Seems like you can't lose with any of those first 3 picks. Unfortunately history has shown us that at LEAST, one of those picks are going to bust or at best disappoint. Seems like a crap shoot when the music stops one of those first 3 picks are going to unable to find a seat at the table.

The concensus is that after those 3 there are 3 very good QB prospects that will be available (McCarthy, Pennix, and Nix) and for various reasons were thought to be end of the first round top 10 of the 2nd round talent. McCarthy because he is so young and wasn't asked to do much at Michigan, Pennix because of age and injury issues, and Nix because of age and arm questions. (you might want to add Rattler as well) But the bottom line is that there IS a gap between the first and 2nd tier QB's.

History tells us that the hype on QB's will only go UP as the draft season goes on. I'm seeing a lot of mocks where McCarthy is going in the 10-12 range. It would not shock me in the least to see 6 guys picked in the first round.

So in a draft where I think I need to pick 4 guys who will have significant roles by year 2, I want as many picks as possible on day 2, I will be willing to trade that #3 for to Atlanta at #8 for their 2nd in this round and a conditional first round pick in 25 (based on percentage of snaps the #3 pick takes in 24, lets say 55%) Then if it looks like McCarthy might still be there at 12, I'd trade down again with Denver (with the promise that they won't take McCarthy with #8 and pick up 3rd round picks in this year and next year's draft.

Then I get McCarthy at #12 and have added AT LEAST 2 quality picks in this draft and a likely first and 3rd in net year's draft. I get my QB of the future and when he's ready to start, he won't be 21 year old 201lb QB with a decent arm, but a much stronger 220lb guy with a strong arm in a year or 2.

The next part of my draft strategy is to go against conventional wisdom and when it comes time to look at receivers, think TE and not WR. Simply because it is harder to find the quality TE than the quality WR. There are simply so MANY NFL caliber WR's that the colleges are producing that you HAVE to go looking for the rarer species. In my ideal scenario with my first pick in the 2nd I'm looking for the best TE available. with my 2nd I'm looking OT

The end result of this strategy is that you fill most of the holes you had on the OL. You add your QB of the future without having to jump right in and start his first year, You have 4 more picks in the top 100 to add depth and explosiveness plus adding 2 more high picks for next year's draft. Imho, this strategy will leave us with the probability of having a competitive interesting team to watch next year, with an outside chance of a playoff appearance, and going into 2025 with a reasonable amount of cap space and 2 first round picks.

I'm so happy with this plan I gave myself a contract extension. What do you think?

Any plan that includes Parker still on this team- I’m out on.

 

[The Gr8est]

not me

There are a lot of teams that would want to draft a QB in the top 11. PLANNING to take Mccarthy at 12 doesn't work for me. If Daniels and Harrison are gone by 4, there will be lots of opportunity for teams to move up for a QB before pick 12.

If the Pats can get those two high picks from Atlanta, along with McCarthy, that is a grand slam. I hope the Pats don’t get greedy and trade down a 2nd time.

I would hate it if the Pats traded up for a QB.

I would be OK with taking one of the big 3 QBs at #3,

But getting two high picks along with JJ McCarthy is the best outcome in my book.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

I have to admit that I’m surprised by the reaction to this. I expected way more people to agree with this idea.

Fields is a non-starter IMO.

 

[Force Zero Boomer]

A really great plan if you can get every team in the league to agree they won't pick McCarthy before 12.

He might not be there at 8. Someone is going to take a flier on a kid with franchise potential.

 

[venecol]

No trading back for QBs in the 1st please.

 

[Ivan]

So are we now universally on the “we have to draft JJ McCarthy” train now? I respect the analysis but if we aren’t taking one of the top 3 projected QBs, just take MHJ (if available).

Who am I to say though. If the organization is really confident in the kid go ahead but I’m skeptical that they’ll do it.

I respect BGC’s evaluations as well, but I haven’t changed my mind. I still want them to go with either Daniels or Maye.