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Not that I necessarily thought Lawson would be some kind of savoir, but if he's willing to go to Cincy for a year at 3M, would he have come to NE for 2,65M ? And, is he worth it ?
Seems a cheap enough amount, must be BB determined there was no value...
Here's a question. Would you rather
a) Sign Matt Light for $7m this year and $5m next year
or
b) Kept Kaczur at $3.5m for 2011, start him at RT, move Vollmer to LT for 2011, and then sign Manny Lawson for 1 yr $3.5m.
Both options cost the same money, but not cutting Kaczur this year also saves you another $1m in cap space next year.
First, Light doesn't have a contract as you stated. Light got a $12 million deal with $7 million guaranteed. That doesn't mean his cap # is $7 million this year. Odds are that his cap hit for 2011 is around $3-4 million. Light's 2011 cap hit is probably about the same as Kazcur's was before he was cut.
Second, if the Pats wanted Lawson and Lawson wanted to be a Patriot, he would be here right now. The Pats could have easily figured out a way to obsorb a $3.5 million hit.
Third, the fact that Lawson could only get an one year "prove it" contract on a team that is one of the worst franchises in the NFL tells me that most personnel people around the league don't think nearly as highly of him as fans do. There are several potential contending 3-4 teams with outside linebacker needs and Lawson chose to go to a 4-3 team which most people think is going to be in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes. It is also a team notorious for having a cheap owner who isn't likely to give him a long term contract after this year.
Manny Lawson was the best 3-4 OLB in a very weak class of 3-4 OLB free agents. The guy has had less sacks in the last two years than TBC had in 2009. He is an above average 3-4 OLB, but nothing special.
If the Pats are moving towards a 4 man front, Lawson isn't even worth getting anyway.
Fancy answering the question or are you too busy surveying the land from atop your high horse?
The first point he made makes your question wrong, so it's pointless!
Both options aren't the same money!
And if they were I'd rather have Light than Kaczur and Lawson!
Fancy answering the question or are you too busy surveying the land from atop your high horse?
I'd rather keep Light. I know what we have in that devil. I don't know much about Lawson but if he's any good a 1 year deal wouldn't be what he's accepting. Kaczur, well I've made my thoughts know about his ability in the past.Here's a question. Would you rather
a) Sign Matt Light for $7m this year and $5m next year
or
b) Kept Kaczur at $3.5m for 2011, start him at RT, move Vollmer to LT for 2011, and then sign Manny Lawson for 1 yr $3.5m.
Both options cost the same money, but not cutting Kaczur this year also saves you another $1m in cap space next year.
would like to see now in a dream world.. OSI... give up a one for him... he would be worth it to get another ring....
would like to see now in a dream world.. OSI... give up a one for him... he would be worth it to get another ring....
Third, the fact that Lawson could only get an one year "prove it" contract on a team that is one of the worst franchises in the NFL tells me that most personnel people around the league don't think nearly as highly of him as fans do. There are several potential contending 3-4 teams with outside linebacker needs and Lawson chose to go to a 4-3 team which most people think is going to be in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes. It is also a team notorious for having a cheap owner who isn't likely to give him a long term contract after this year.
This pretty much nails it for me.
I don't know much about this guy. I looked at his numbers and, though I agree they don't always tell the whole story, I wasn't too impressed.
I think the decision is close, which is why I asked the question, but I'd probably prefer to take Lawson and Kaczur, as I think having Vollmer on the left might actually be an upgrade over Light in terms of protecting the blindside.
As for the money, if $7m out of $12m is guaranteed to Light, there's only a few ways it can be broken down. The guaranteed money is comprised of either a signing bonus or guaranteed first year salary (guaranteed money can't be in the second year, or else the whole contract is guaranteed).
If Light took the vet minimum as guaranteed salary this year, say $1m, in order to give the lowest possible cap figure this year, that means that $6m was a signing bonus. Adding it up means that the very minimum the cap figure can be this year is $4m (= $1m salary + 50% of $6m signing bonus).
If you go the other way, and assume the guaranteed money was simply guaranteed 1st year salary, then $7m is the cap figure this year. So the range is $4m - $7m.
Ultimately, however, there is a minimum of $7m being paid out in cap space for Light at some point, (however you split it between years 1 and 2), as there would be for Lawson and Kaczur (not cutting him this year saves you $1m, but there is still another $1m of bonus left on his salary). So it's not a bad comparison.